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Offline Tobyduke

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To Buy Or To Wait
« on: June 28, 2015, 01:26:35 PM »
have been riding for over 30 years done the sportsbikes etc and I can honesly I have fallen in love before with a bike. but should I buy now or wait a year that's the problem

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 01:50:47 PM »
You didn't mention whats possibly holding you back.  :027:

If you have the money and it's what you want then go for it now. Its not like the engine is totally new, it's done the rounds on the S1000R so any new bike "foibles" all should be sorted.

Go for it I say  :152:


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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 02:10:07 PM »
moneys not a problem just that there might be a recall for something. also they might release other colours.what I don't like is the pannier mountings should be better intergrated in the body work. bike would look fab in black

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 03:11:19 PM »
Sure, recalls are always a risk you take on any new model, it's something you'll have to weigh up I guess.

As for colours, I doubt there will be any new colours till at least late in 2016 (for the 2017 models), but you never know. And if those pannier mountings do change then it could be 18 months or more in the future.

I see why you are hesitant but sometimes you can wait forever on these things  :016:

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2015, 03:46:59 PM »
got to sweet talk the wife now. wanting one but read there is a waiting list. got the idea to ride from London to watch 2016 tt .

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 12:20:00 AM »
The few items new and specific to the XR are not items I would be worried about, the frame, swingarm, triple clamps and the new lean angle sensor which has been in use for other mfg. Most of this bike is taken directly from the S1000R, that has been in production a few years now and from what I have read, has had few major issues. The ESA has been in use for other bikes in BMW's lineup and seems to be a well seasoned option that is well worth the money, at least for me. To be able to go from freeway riding where I want it soft and plush and then hit a nice curvy secondary road and drop it to Dynamic or Dynamic Pro is a bonus, don't even bother to stop to make that change.

If the bike ticks off all the boxes of items you want in your next bike, why wait? I doubt there will be any major changes to this bike for several more years, it is a well oiled machine already.

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 12:26:17 AM »
Below is a translated post from the German magazine that did a direct comparison of the top bikes in the S1000XR's category. Pretty interesting numbers when they are all tested equally and on the same exact dyno.

compare between different bikes measured by the german magazine Motorrad (I've copied it from a post I wrote on french forums):

o Power : S1000XR 170 ch à 10900tr/mn - Multistrada DVT 150 ch à 9500 tr/mn - KTM 1290 SA 159 ch à 9300 tr/mn - KTM 1190 Adv 147 à 9600 - GS Adv 128 à 7900 - 2010 Ducati Multistrada 147 à 9300 - Aprilia Caponord 124 à 8200 - Kawa Versys 1000 123 à 9100 - Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport 122 à 9300.

o Torque : S1000XR 118Nm à 9100 tr/mn - Multistrada DVT 122 Nm à 7800 tr/mn - KTM 1290 SA 135 à 7600 tr/mn - KTM 1190 Adv 122 à 7300 - GS Adv 125 à 6600 - 2010 Ducati Multistrada 120 à 7800 - Caponord 110 à 6900 - Versys 1000 205 à 7700 - Triumph Tiger 98 à 4300

o Full Weight : S1000XR : 242 kg - Multistrada DVT 247kg - KTM 1290 SA 256 kg - KTM 1190 Adv 238kg - GS Adv 272kg - 2010 Multistrada 234kg - Caponord 251kg - Versys 1000 256 kg - Triumph Tiger 1050 244kg

o Accélération :
0-100 km/h : S1000XR : 3,2s - Multistrada DVT 3,5s - KTM 1290 SA 3,4s - 1190 Adv 3,7s - GS Adv 3,7s - 2010 Multi 3,3s - Caponord 3,7s - Versys 1000 3,5s - Tiger 1050 3,4s

0-140 : S1000XR : 4,8s - Multistrada DVT 5,5s - KTM 1290 SA 5,3s - 1190 Adv 5,6s - GS Adv 6s - 2010 Multi 5,2s - Caponord 6s - Versys 1000 5,5s - Tiger 1050 5,6s

0-200 : S1000XR : 8,6s - Multistrada DVT 10,8s - KTM 1290 SA 10,3s - 1190 Adv 10,9s - GS Adv 14,5s - 2010 Multi 10,1s - Caponord 13,1s - Versys 1000 11,9s - Tiger 1050 13,7s

o Reprise :
60-100 (I guess in 6th) : S1000XR : 3,3s - Multistrada DVT 4,7s - KTM 1290 SA 3,4s - 1190 Adv 3,6s - GS Adv 3,7s - 2010 Multi 4,1s - Caponord 4,3s - Versys 1000 3,7s - Tiger 1050 3,5s

100-140 : S1000XR : 3,3s - Multistrada DVT 4,3s - KTM 1290 SA 3,5s - 1190 Adv 3,6s - GS Adv 3,9s - 2010 Multi 4,3s - Caponord 4,8s - Versys 1000 4,1s - Tiger 1050 4,1s

140-180 : S1000XR : 3,5s - Multistrada DVT 5,8s - KTM 1290 SA 4,1s - 1190 Adv 4,1s - GS Adv 5,6s - 2010 Multi 4,9s - Caponord 5,8s - Versys 1000 5,7s - Tiger 1050 6,25s

-Based on these numbers the X1000XR is pretty much king of this class of bikes. There are those that will want the twin for it's lower torque range and unique engine characteristics, for me I went for the best sport bike that had a seating triangle I could live with.

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 03:49:37 AM »
Great comparison info; thanks fasttrak.  I agree with your conclusion and my other bike is a 2013 Multistrada ST.

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 01:12:06 PM »
Thanks for the info guys. sleeped on it want it now what to do part ex what I'm on now or keep both will be a big change  to swap. from my ktm 690r duke. problem is this  ticks all the boxes for me.

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Re: To Buy Or To Wait
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 05:42:48 PM »
Thanks for the numbers Fasttrak!  Very interesting.  That is the first time I've seen them all rated along side each other.   :046:
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