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Offline Ant

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Binding feel in clutch lever
« on: July 31, 2018, 01:22:10 AM »
Hope I explain this right.

On occasions when squeezing the clutch while shifting gears I'll feel a slight bind type feel in the lever itself where the end of the cable (barrel thingy) sits inside the clutch lever.The cable is not frayed nor is it sawing against the housing going down towards the clutch. 

Been playing with the adjustment wheel that adjusts the lever's play and can't get rid of the problem. The bike shifts gears just fine, no issues there. It's just an intermiten feeling in the clutch lever itself that annoys the crap out of me.

Anyone experience anything remotely like this?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 01:53:48 AM »
It's normal, there's many threads/posts about it on here and other forums. It's actually the slipper clutch doing it's thing, happens mostly on the downchange....I had the same issue with mine until I came on here and found out I wasn't going crazy.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 02:39:13 AM »
*Originally Posted by smithy [+]
It's normal, there's many threads/posts about it on here and other forums. It's actually the slipper clutch doing it's thing, happens mostly on the downchange....I had the same issue with mine until I came on here and found out I wasn't going crazy.

Smithy.

Thanks for the response, I was almost contemplating replacing the clutch cable! Just curious did you adjust extra slack in the lever or keep it per the specs. I want to set the adjustment wheel in one spot so I can stop adjusting the fooking thing now that I know nothing is wrong.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2018, 02:46:15 AM by Ant »

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2018, 03:10:35 AM »
You will find the clutch lever adjusment changes as the engine warms up, if you set the correct freeplay of 1-3mm when cold, it will substantially increase as the engine warms up...and when she cools down it will be back to normal again. Just set when cold and forget...it'll do your head in chasing the adjustment all the time.
This phenomenon also seems to be restricted to these S1000 series engines....a hydraulically operated clutch would see this sorted IMHO.

Smithy.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2018, 03:12:13 AM by smithy »
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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2018, 03:29:06 AM »
*Originally Posted by smithy [+]
You will find the clutch lever adjusment changes as the engine warms up, if you set the correct freeplay of 1-3mm when cold, it will substantially increase as the engine warms up...and when she cools down it will be back to normal again. Just set when cold and forget...it'll do your head in chasing the adjustment all the time.
This phenomenon also seems to be restricted to these S1000 series engines....a hydraulically operated clutch would see this sorted IMHO.

Smithy.
Thanks again much appreciated.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2018, 05:07:30 AM »
*Originally Posted by Ant [+]
Thanks again much appreciated.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2018, 09:06:23 AM »
*Originally Posted by smithy [+]
It's normal, there's many threads/posts about it on here and other forums. It's actually the slipper clutch doing it's thing, happens mostly on the downchange....I had the same issue with mine until I came on here and found out I wasn't going crazy.

Smithy.

Same with mine.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 09:03:16 AM »
*Originally Posted by smithy [+]
It's normal, there's many threads/posts about it on here and other forums. It's actually the slipper clutch doing it's thing, happens mostly on the downchange....I had the same issue with mine until I came on here and found out I wasn't going crazy.

Smithy.

Just want to say thank you for clarifying that. I'm a new XR owner and this issue was bugging me as well. I even loaded tons of PTFE spray into the cable's both ends which made clutch pulling very pleasant but didn't resolve the issue  :008:

Eventually I managed to reproduce it consistently - it happens when pulling clutch while closing throttle swiftly.

Thanks again for the peace of mind.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2019, 09:25:03 PM »
I must admit I thought it was just me, I've got aftermarket leavers on my XR.  I actually had BMW adjust my clutch free play (I was struggling to get it correct and kept second guessing myself) book spec is 1MM of play at clutch perch with cold engine which is bugger all.

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Re: Binding feel in clutch lever
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2019, 06:39:52 AM »
*Originally Posted by XRRICH [+]
I must admit I thought it was just me, I've got aftermarket leavers on my XR.  I actually had BMW adjust my clutch free play (I was struggling to get it correct and kept second guessing myself) book spec is 1MM of play at clutch perch with cold engine which is bugger all.

Yep, 1mm when cold and it will increase as the engine warms up.....possibly up to ~5-6mm when fully warm....but will come back to normal once cooled down.

Smithy.
When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my Grandfather....not screaming like the passengers in his car..!