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SW Motech crash bars
« on: February 12, 2019, 03:21:16 PM »
Hi
Was just looking at these crash bars and notice on the fitting instructions that the main bolts are given as tighten to 32Nm
I may be wrong (I usually am), but the bolts they replace look like engine bolts which BMW give as tighten to 60Nm
I have e mailed SW Motech, but just wondered if anyone had fitted them and maybe queried it too?
Any advice welcome
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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 04:03:17 PM »
I fitted them with the SW Motech specified torque and some medium strength thread lock and they haven't come loose after 7000 miles...make of that what you will  :002:

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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2019, 05:28:52 PM »
I had the same thing with R&G crash bungs which use the same engine mount. R&G's answer was that their bolts can only go to 40nm so I returned them and used Evotech ones which specify OEM torque. I spoke to BMW and they said they are stressed member bolts and should be 60nm. You have the same issue I had. I know that's no help  ...sorry. You could replace the bolts for ones that can be torqued to correct tension but I got pissy about it so just returned them. :008:
« Last Edit: February 12, 2019, 05:29:44 PM by Markymark11 »

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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 11:17:58 AM »
Thanks for the replies, still waiting to hear off SW Motech, see what they say

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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2019, 08:22:43 PM »
I fitted Motech bars on mine. Must admit I can't recall what the torque advised was in the instructions, but I locktited for sure.
I don't recall the figure triggering any concerns for me and it all seems in order so far.
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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 04:08:55 PM »
Just had an email from Motohaus Powersports,, SW Motech distributors who had queried the torque settings with SW Motech

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SW-Motech have replied to our email with your torques setting question, see below –

Dear all,

thanks for your e-mail- it was the start of a discussion.


You can use the recommendation of BMW. We will update our fitting instruction with the correct Nm declaration asap.

I’m sorry for the confusion and thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Kind regards

Claire

CLAIRE GRAHAM, Sales & Marketing Co-ordinator

Motohaus Powersports Limited

Osborn Way, Hook

Hampshire RG27 9UT

United Kingdom

Telephone: +44 1256 704909

Web: www.motohaus.com

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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 04:27:49 PM »
Hmm... I assume that means those of us with them already fitted have to retorque. Bit of a pain, to have to remove the bolts, clean off the Loctite and refit/retorque. Also is that BMW torque wet i.e. with Loctite?
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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 05:22:10 PM »
Ha Ha - At least SW are doing something -  I got a reply from R&G and all it said was "thank you for your email. Our bolts tighten to 40nm"  - I now know which company to buy from in the future. I would say that any torque is dry as loctite increases the torque to an unknown degree.

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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 12:42:44 AM »
Just check which bolts they are replacing against BMW's torques settings
The lower one's look wrong as well
I will double check tomorrow to make sure I've got the right one's, but the top one on each side looks like the engine bolt and BMW state 60 Nm
BMW
https://www.bmw-motorrad-bohling.com/uk/lanotattachments/download/file/id/682/store/7/crash_bars_s1000xr.pdf

SW Motech
https://sw-motech.com/cosmoshop/default/artikelpdf/sbl_07_592_10000_b.pdf
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Re: SW Motech crash bars
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 11:37:49 AM »
Loctite 243, Medium strength on BMW instruction sheet