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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #50 on: January 25, 2023, 12:13:17 am
    January 25, 2023, 12:13:17 am
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    I don't have a lot of seat time on my gen 2 yet, but can you turn it off or at least way down by customizing dynamic pro mode?

    Dynamic Pro mode does have it, but it won't turn it off completely. If I want it completely than I can probably unplug front ABS sensor and try it. I'll do that on next warm day.

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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #51 on: January 25, 2023, 07:17:30 am
    January 25, 2023, 07:17:30 am
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    How do you turn the ABS off? or can you.

    Just hold the ABS/DTC button until the ABS light comes on (left handlebar, inside switch held upwards)

    Also, reason you want it completely off is because if it's even a little bit on then the brakes are linked. The XR linked brakes are disabled with ABS off.
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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #52 on: January 25, 2023, 08:30:07 am
    January 25, 2023, 08:30:07 am
    *Originally Posted by Anchorman [+]
    Hopefully problem cured.
    The tyres, Avon Storms, both having around 2.7mm tread on them, looked 'normal, but when you ran your hand over the surface, rippling could be felt which was not visible to the naked eye. Tyres changed and problem solved.
    Many thanks to those that responded with advice.

    Strangely my mate had the same problem as you and it was on a set of Avon Storms
     

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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #53 on: January 29, 2023, 02:21:55 am
    January 29, 2023, 02:21:55 am
    Well, took a ride today, turned off all ABS and traction, it's still shuddering. Took a video of a shock today. When I'm braking and almost come to a stop you can see the shock compress.

    Video is on repeat, there were 2 good instances that I put in the video, 30sec each. I don't know, let me know if you all see anything from the video.

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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #54 on: January 29, 2023, 02:40:11 am
    January 29, 2023, 02:40:11 am
    *Originally Posted by Zar_S1000XR [+]
    Well, took a ride today, turned off all ABS and traction, it's still shuddering. Took a video of a shock today. When I'm braking and almost come to a stop you can see the shock compress.

    Video is on repeat, there were 2 good instances that I put in the video, 30sec each. I don't know, let me know if you all see anything from the video.



    That's normal behaviour of the forks, can't see anything on this video out of place. The forks stiffen up under braking and as your speed gets low they release, this is the anti dive of D-ESA at work.

    On that note I did just replace my brakes today, disc, pads, cleaned calipers, and the vibration is completely gone, was definitely an issue with my heavily worn disc and pads and dirty callipers for me.
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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #55 on: January 29, 2023, 03:00:09 am
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    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    That's normal behaviour of the forks, can't see anything on this video out of place. The forks stiffen up under braking and as your speed gets low they release, this is the anti dive of D-ESA at work.

    On that note I did just replace my brakes today, disc, pads, cleaned calipers, and the vibration is completely gone, was definitely an issue with my heavily worn disc and pads and dirty callipers for me.

    Yeah, you're definitely not seeing it, it starts happening at 3 sec, the shock is pulsating when I'm starting to brake. No it's not normal. At least not normal on my brakes.
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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #56 on: January 29, 2023, 03:03:32 am
    January 29, 2023, 03:03:32 am
    *Originally Posted by Zar_S1000XR [+]
    Yeah, you're definitely not seeing it, it starts happening at 3 sec, the shock is pulsating when I'm starting to brake. No it's not normal. At least not normal on my brakes.

    That just looks like the bumps in the road to me, I don't doubt the vibrations of your brakes are contributing to it but if you're suggesting it's a suspension issue, I highly doubt that. Though at this point it could be anything...

    When you turned the ABS off did you check it disabled the linked brakes? If you pulled the front brake it didn't put the rear brakes on?
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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #57 on: January 29, 2023, 03:29:14 am
    January 29, 2023, 03:29:14 am
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    That just looks like the bumps in the road to me, I don't doubt the vibrations of your brakes are contributing to it but if you're suggesting it's a suspension issue, I highly doubt that. Though at this point it could be anything...

    Not bumps. Maybe hard for you to see it in video, thats why I looped it. Well, ask yourself what happens when your brakes shudder\pulsate? you think your shocks are straight as whistle when you brake. Forks will compress and released when your brake shuddering. It might looks like bumps, but it's not. That's what it is, it looks like bumps but it's not, that's the shuddering I get when I brake.

    Same happens when your rotors are warped, but mine are new rotors and pads.
    Last Edit: January 29, 2023, 03:30:10 am by Zar_S1000XR
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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #58 on: January 29, 2023, 03:49:29 am
    January 29, 2023, 03:49:29 am
    *Originally Posted by Zar_S1000XR [+]
    Not bumps. Maybe hard for you to see it in video, thats why I looped it. Well, ask yourself what happens when your brakes shudder\pulsate? you think your shocks are straight as whistle when you brake. Forks will compress and released when your brake shuddering. It might looks like bumps, but it's not. That's what it is, it looks like bumps but it's not, that's the shuddering I get when I brake.

    Same happens when your rotors are warped, but mine are new rotors and pads.

    I know that's what I meant, what I was saying is your forks will bounce a bit anyway from bumps, if you say it's bouncing that much from the vibration, I believe you, but that is a symptom of the brakes vibrating, not the cause for it.

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    Re: Vibration when braking
    Reply #59 on: January 29, 2023, 04:53:22 am
    January 29, 2023, 04:53:22 am
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    I know that's what I meant, what I was saying is your forks will bounce a bit anyway from bumps, if you say it's bouncing that much from the vibration, I believe you, but that is a symptom of the brakes vibrating, not the cause for it.

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