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Offline Colin

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Re: PC5 question
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2020, 12:22:09 PM »
FYI - I emailed them half an hr ago and the following was their answer:

We can do these directly to the ecu . We have been for a long time now. It's only a BMSMP ECU the same as the 2016 model. BMW use the BMSO now. The cost is 499 and the bike will sit on the Dyno all day.  You don't have to remove the lambda sensors. They can be disabled and stay in place to give the OEM type look.

The company's you spoke to probably rely on some third party tool that hasn't been released. We don't.

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Re: PC5 question
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2020, 12:31:28 PM »
They basically do a full dump of the contents of the ECU and they have the details of where the maps physically are in the flash image, they update them fix up the checksums etc and then load it back into the ECU. This is done on the bench so obviously a slower process than mapping a PC5 on the bike. However it will allow them to map both sets of injectors, ignition, and throttle maps etc.

Its basically the same as brentune and the like do with their tools, their tool does the reading and writing to the ECU for you and they make the changes to your ECU image you send them.

 

Offline Winger

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Re: PC5 question
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2020, 04:51:43 PM »
*Originally Posted by Colin [+]
FYI - I emailed them half an hr ago and the following was their answer:

We can do these directly to the ecu . We have been for a long time now. It's only a BMSMP ECU the same as the 2016 model. BMW use the BMSO now. The cost is 499 and the bike will sit on the Dyno all day.  You don't have to remove the lambda sensors. They can be disabled and stay in place to give the OEM type look.

The company's you spoke to probably rely on some third party tool that hasn't been released. We don't.

You can ask as many questions as you like  :001:, but at some time you have to take a deep breath stop dancing around your handbag and jump in feet first  :821:.

BSD have a good reputation, the bit about deleting the lamba’s PC5 does the same, and that will be your first step on the fuelling  ladder by finding out that they are TUV thing, the only thing they do is have the motor trying to disappear up its own backside, the only time you will ever notice is when climbing high in the Alps or similar.

Have to say 500 quid seems a bit salty, but by the time you have bought a PC fitted and mapped not going to be far short if at all.

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Re: PC5 question
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2020, 05:09:16 PM »
*Originally Posted by bazzer [+]
They basically do a full dump of the contents of the ECU and they have the details of where the maps physically are in the flash image, they update them fix up the checksums etc and then load it back into the ECU. This is done on the bench so obviously a slower process than mapping a PC5 on the bike. However it will allow them to map both sets of injectors, ignition, and throttle maps etc.

Its basically the same as brentune and the like do with their tools, their tool does the reading and writing to the ECU for you and they make the changes to your ECU image you send them.

I have had two bikes done at CJS in that way and had some really good results. Definitely having mine done over winter. .