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M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« on: August 26, 2020, 09:08:30 AM »
What do folk think about the new M Chain with DLC? Are they any better and worth the extra £100?  :305:
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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2020, 03:47:32 PM »
ok for discussion :821:
Had to look up DLC = Diamond Like  Carbon. According to Wikipedia, it exist since 2004. Doesn't seem to be very popular. With an extreme fine coating like that it looks to me  you want to use a chain oiler even more to wash off debris. Sand has a diamond close hardness. And exactly what is DLC coated? With a sealed (O,X) chain the friction is within the seals. Oil is far better in lubrication than any coating. 

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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2020, 05:47:35 PM »
I don’t think that good quality chains are a problem in their current form.

Cheapshit chains like Regina that BMW have been fitting to the bikes - are the main issue IMO.

To be charged £100 for them to call a decent chain an upgrade item is billshut.


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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2020, 06:05:54 PM »
*Originally Posted by Mareng1 [+]
I don’t think that good quality chains are a problem in their current form.

Cheapshit chains like Regina that BMW have been fitting to the bikes - are the main issue IMO.

To be charged £100 for them to call a decent chain an upgrade item is billshut.

Well said that man....

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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2020, 08:48:32 AM »
*Originally Posted by Mareng1 [+]
I don’t think that good quality chains are a problem in their current form.

Cheapshit chains like Regina that BMW have been fitting to the bikes - are the main issue IMO.

To be charged £100 for them to call a decent chain an upgrade item is billshut.

Agree with that - how is £100 a reasonable additional price for a good chain??  :305:
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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2020, 01:50:54 PM »
This article gives some more info on the M chain option:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/amp/news/new-tech/bmw-m-endurance-chain/

If the new chain does actually manage to run for an extended period of time without requiring regular maintenance and tension adjustment then it sounds like a better value proposition.  Looking at the diagram in the article above, it appears it may also be manufactured by Regina.

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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2020, 04:08:57 PM »
*Originally Posted by MSM [+]
This article gives some more info on the M chain option:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/amp/news/new-tech/bmw-m-endurance-chain/

If the new chain does actually manage to run for an extended period of time without requiring regular maintenance and tension adjustment then it sounds like a better value proposition.  Looking at the diagram in the article above, it appears it may also be manufactured by Regina.

Agree with that, think I will spec with my next bike  :305:
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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2020, 08:26:27 PM »
This claim sounds believable to me, my experience with chains in the last five years or so would support this.

I love motorcycles and I have had many.  A few years ago, as I looked for what my next bike might be, I found that many I liked had chain drives and only a few I liked had shaft drive.  I decided to get a KTM Super Duke and mostly disregard the chain and see what happens.  Nothing happened.  It didn't wear out and it didn't need adjustment.  I spray chain lube at haphazard intervals (300 to 600 miles) with good results.  7000 miles on the KTM, 8500 miles on a Triumph Bonneville, and now 7000 miles on my 2019 XR.  Today's chains are great.

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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2020, 07:29:11 PM »
Don't hold your breath waiting for real rider assessments on this chain. My local "stealer" quoted a delivery date of December for retro fitting to a new 70 plate bike and couldn't even quote a date for the special link also required to install it!

Also dream on if you think it's only £100 - price quoted £235.00 plus fitting charge!

Wonder if the sprockets are made of the same wonder stuff or made out of chocolate like plenty of others   :008:

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Re: M Chain Option for the XR 2021
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2020, 08:24:39 PM »
Up to now - the quote seems to be £100 on the configurator.

You are quoting fitting a new ‘diamond-hard’ chain/sprocket assembly after the delivery.   

So, the dealer removes all the old sh#t, and fits the new ‘wonder-gear’ for £235?

Is that over the top?   :435:


 



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