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Offline Warree

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Rider position and lean forward
on: December 18, 2020, 09:47:10 AM
Like most of us I lean forward a little on my XR.1

https://cycle-ergo.com/

so I have been considering Helibars:

https://chainspeed.co.uk/shop-by-bike/bmw/bmw-s1000xr/helibars-horizon-st-multi-axis-adjustable-handlebars-for-bmw-s1000xr-2015-hss05121/

I have read the good experiences of members but it has got me thinking about the ergonomics of position.
It feels like the lean forward lends itself to more spirited riding and upright to touring. Or am I being too simplistic?

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #1 on: December 18, 2020, 06:21:38 PM
Cycle-ergo is a great site.  Used it for years when I am considering either a new bike or a mod to an existing bike.

They are a bit slow to add new bikes though.  It took a couple of years and several requests on my part to get the MT-10 added.  But it's free, so no grounds to complain....
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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 11:43:47 AM
New 2020 model has 10mm lower bars, 30 mm narrower and 20mm forward seat. More responsive seating position. Bars are 28mm instead of the 32 mm GS style the gen 1 has, so not interchangeable. You can search for lower 32mm bars.
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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #3 on: December 19, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
you could use the 28mm bars with adapters/spacers, I have had these on a bike for over 15k miles nowwith no issues.

https://www.fasstco.com/products/diameter-adapters-for-bmw-1200-gs-lc

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #4 on: December 19, 2020, 07:09:03 PM
Thank you All
Today I fitted new Helibars.
After a few test ride/readjustments I have settled (for now) on 50 mm narrower. 10mm lower and 30mm further back. 
The XR suits me very well and now it fits me even better.
Last Edit: December 19, 2020, 07:30:37 PM by Warree

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #5 on: December 19, 2020, 09:56:52 PM
We need photos! And some more impressions once you have more miles under your belt! Please!

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 07:42:06 PM




Been out for 2 hours today in very mixed weather and riding styles. I am very happy with this mod so far.
It is very adaptable: I have also experimented with a low wide set up (more like a sportsbike) for track days
The design is good but some of the tolerances are not good making fitting more difficult than it should be.
You can see that 2 of the bolts are not in place yet as they don't fit. I plan to email them or call on Monday.

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #7 on: December 20, 2020, 08:43:59 PM
I am wondering if those 2 bolts don't go in because you do not have the bars flush with clamps. It looks like those may slide down the 'groves' in the bars that are visible inboard at the moment??
I also do not see thses listed on the Helibars website here in the US, but they are available at Revzilla and other retailers.

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #8 on: December 20, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
The 2 holes that the bolts fit in don't quite enter the central channel that the bars fit in. The other 2 are set in slightly more and would/do foul on the bars.

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Re: Rider position and lean forward
Reply #9 on: December 20, 2020, 11:44:07 PM
What I meant is that if you set the inboard side of the bars flush with the clamps, do those 2 groves line up with the holes and therefore the 2 (missing) bolts become locking bolts.
From instructions - "Loosen both handlebar mounting screws and remove inner screws, slide left bar into bore until fl ush and
re-install mounting screw. Make sure bar is flush and mounting pinch bolt is aligned with radial groove
in end of the bar. (See Photo #14)
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