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Offline Pilotct

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Larger Capacity Battery
on: January 21, 2021, 05:21:33 PM
Hi all - has anyone fitted a larger capacity (non-lithium) battery to a Gen 1 XR?  Would appreciate any info and model numbers please.

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #1 on: January 21, 2021, 09:04:35 PM
OEM BMW batteries are known to be junk. Larger capacity non lithium batteries are often too big to fit in the space provided....there were two different capacity batteries fitted to the Gen-1 XR, the one for bikes with the factory alarm were slightly larger capacity.

Any reason you don't want a lithium battery..??

I've had a 290CCA Lithium battery in my bike for nearly 4years now without issue.

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2021, 03:45:16 PM
buy a lithium battery - much better, more capacity and much lighter. Have a look at Shido batteries
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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2021, 05:16:38 PM
All my bikes get lithium batteries as soon as I get them home .

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #4 on: January 24, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
In answer to why not lithium, I was advised (by the Shido supplier in Brum) that although lithium are great for many reasons, cold ain’t one of them. That might be why the OP is enquiring about bigger cap LA.

(I’m not rubbishing lithium btw, I’ll likely try one myself next when my OEM battery dies - it’s at 3.5 years now, so prob won’t be long!)

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #5 on: January 24, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
*Originally Posted by orbits [+]
In answer to why not lithium, I was advised (by the Shido supplier in Brum) that although lithium are great for many reasons, cold ain’t one of them. That might be why the OP is enquiring about bigger cap LA.

(I’m not rubbishing lithium btw, I’ll likely try one myself next when my OEM battery dies - it’s at 3.5 years now, so prob won’t be long!)

No problem with Li batteries in the UK when cold
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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #6 on: January 24, 2021, 08:32:57 PM
Thanks for the recommendations folks. I’ve stayed away fro lithium only because I ride quite a bit in cold weather here in New England in the United States. I’ve heard of some issues in the cold from folks in the BMW owners group.

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #7 on: January 24, 2021, 11:42:42 PM
*Originally Posted by Pilotct [+]
Thanks for the recommendations folks. I’ve stayed away fro lithium only because I ride quite a bit in cold weather here in New England in the United States. I’ve heard of some issues in the cold from folks in the BMW owners group.

The Gen-2 top spec M model comes with a lithium battery as standard, Germany gets mighty cold too, the days of lithium batteries suffering in the cold are long gone.

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #8 on: Today at 08:10:10 AM
All this love for Lithium is not entirely warranted, in theory they are the greatest advancement in technology but the reality isn’t quite the same according to this excellent video, and other sources.

Weighing up the pros and cons, a “decent quality” AGM or even Gel to be the reliable options. Especially with the temperature extremes we can put our bikes through in their lifetime.

Not personally qualified to confuse cats, but I can recommend an extremely good service.

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Re: Larger Capacity Battery
Reply #9 on: Today at 09:00:12 AM
*Originally Posted by smithy [+]
The Gen-2 top spec M model comes with a lithium battery as standard, Germany gets mighty cold too, the days of lithium batteries suffering in the cold are long gone.

Smithy.
My previous bike had Lithium as OEM fitment (Honda ATAS) it never suffered a flat battery or poor starting here in cold damp NE England over the 2+ winters I owned it & it was never connected to an external charger . My 2020 XR with its factory lead acid battery was flat after 1/2 of its 1st winter in the same location same use profile, think it was about 6 weeks of no use, last ride 21st dec 20, flat as a witches booby by early Feb 21. It came back to life after a full offline charge but suspect I need it on a trickle charger for next winter. Note its alledged the UK spec factory tracker is a prime source of battery drain so I may be being a little unfair on the factory LA batt.   Note the trick with a cold lithium batt is to let it warm up with some light current draw before asking it to cold crank an engine so turn on ignition /lights etc for a short while before trying to start the engine .
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