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    Q: Charging a lithium battery
    on: March 09, 2021, 08:11:13 am
    March 09, 2021, 08:11:13 am
    My original battery is giving up after 4 years of service, so I've order a Shido lithium replacement.  I read through the Shido instructions and it says: "Always remove the battery from the vehicle before connecting it to the charger."  (I sure all manufacturers of lead/acid batteries say the same).

    It then goes on to say: "When you store your bike equipped with an alarm system for more than one week, use a specific lithium charger with maintaining mode to keep your battery healthy. "  Having to disconnect it each time would be a pain in the ar*e!

    I was going use my Optimate Lithium charger with the permanent battery connections leads - Anyone know from experience if charging this way will be a problem on the XR?

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #1 on: March 09, 2021, 08:27:01 am
    March 09, 2021, 08:27:01 am
    No problem at all.

    Yes, I prefer the tails straight to the battery, as it bypassess all the electronics/canbus.   

    Optimate  - Quality battery tender, and if Lithium-capable - a good choice.

    Is it auto-sensing, or do you have to switch to Li mode?

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #2 on: March 09, 2021, 08:32:39 am
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    Thanks @Mareng1.

    It's Lithium only - https://www.optimate.co.uk/products/optimate-08-lithium

    I use it on my KTM 250 EXC TPI - it has a small battery, I'm hoping it should be ok for the larger Shido battery.

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #3 on: March 09, 2021, 09:09:04 am
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    Charge my LI battery with the BMW LI / Pb charger via the Aux socket and it works just fine
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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #4 on: March 09, 2021, 09:47:11 am
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    *Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR [+]
    Charge my LI battery with the BMW LI / Pb charger via the Aux socket and it works just fine

    Sure, for an OEM charger - I would do the same, but for a 3rd-party manufacturer - I would go direct to battery.

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #5 on: March 09, 2021, 12:08:38 pm
    March 09, 2021, 12:08:38 pm
    I was looking at specific chargers and spotted this comment "Also, never jump-start a machine with a LiFe battery!" on https://www.shopbmwmotorcycle.com/products/optimate-lithium-life-motorcycle-battery-charger-with-bmw-plug

    I've never had to jump-start a bike since I had a Ducati 998. I'm interested to know why a lithium battery can't be jump-started.

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #6 on: March 09, 2021, 02:49:20 pm
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    Ditto what’s already been said, my OE battery got binned very quickly on the X/R,use an Optmate lithium charger with a pigs tail on the battery and the same with 4 others bikes.

    I’ve only ever encountered one blip with lithium and that’s because some non OE R/R do not like lithium and left us high nd dry on the motorway, and soon after Electrex put a red letter note on their website after my phone call, and I have a lithium R/R lined up for my old 955 Tiger just need to get off my backside to fit it and buy another lithium battery.


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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #7 on: March 09, 2021, 02:53:57 pm
    March 09, 2021, 02:53:57 pm
    *Originally Posted by JTL [+]
    I was looking at specific chargers and spotted this comment "Also, never jump-start a machine with a LiFe battery!" on https://www.shopbmwmotorcycle.com/products/optimate-lithium-life-motorcycle-battery-charger-with-bmw-plug

    I've never had to jump-start a bike since I had a Ducati 998. I'm interested to know why a lithium battery can't be jump-started.

    Two ways of reading that:

    1)  Never jump start a bike which has a lithium battery fitted.
    2)  Never jump start a bike from a lithium battery.

    1)  Maybe the Li battery, having a much different characteristic than the (possibly) Lead-Acid battery in the tow-truck - might cause a current surge, but most jump leads have protection against that (the surge that can go from 12.8v to a 3.0v battery for example).

    2)  Lithium batteries are used in a most of these emergency start packs, so would surmise that this is not what they mean.

    So - I'm not sure what harm can be caused to (presumably) the non-starting bike??

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #8 on: March 09, 2021, 02:55:50 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Winger [+]
    Ditto what’s already been said, my OE battery got binned very quickly on the X/R,use an Optmate lithium charger with a pigs tail on the battery and the same with 4 others bikes.

    I’ve only ever encountered one blip with lithium and that’s because some non OE R/R do not like lithium and left us high nd dry on the motorway, and soon after Electrex put a red letter note on their website after my phone call, and I have a lithium R/R lined up for my old 955 Tiger just need to get off my backside to fit it and buy another lithium battery.

    R/R? 

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    Re: Q: Charging a lithium battery
    Reply #9 on: March 09, 2021, 05:44:01 pm
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    Should have said lithium friendly Regulator/Rectifier