Brutal tyre damage

[Antares]

Hey all, when I heard about people saying XRs tend to get punctures more often than other bikes for some reason I was a bit sceptical, so you can probably imagine the colourful language that was going on under my helmet when I had to pull over as somehow my tyres went from this:



(ignore the vanity line  )

To this in under 100 miles:







I've never had anything like this, it's only on one half of the tyre too. After noticing this I immediately headed home and shortly into the journey home the tyres actually punctured fully somewhere, I had to find and plug that hole and then somehow made it the rest of the way home.

Now obviously this calls for new tyres, damn shame too cos they had at least another 2000 miles in them.

If someone can explain this one to me...

PS: Pressures were fine. I put 38PSI in the rears before setting out

[PaulS1000XR]

Looks like a faulty tyre.  Take it back

[Antares]

Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR

Looks like a faulty tyre.  Take it back

I can't exactly do that haha, It's been on there since 2018 and 8000 miles, been on there when i bought the bike 2nd hand.

Also I'm gonna go with Michelin Road 5s, but the question is GT or non GT. GT has stiffer sidewalls for heavier bikes but what's the point where you wanna go GT instead or regular? My ER6F was 205kg and i ran the normals on there and it was great, XR is 225 or so so I'm on the edge whether they'd need the GT or not.

[Mareng1]

Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR

Looks like a faulty tyre.  Take it back

Seriously?  Look at the tread in the centre section. 

That tyre was simply taken beyond it's 'usable' life.   

The last vestiges of tread always disappear at a rate disproportionate to the general wear beforehand.

Consider 5,000 miles as being your limit, tread or not - would be my advice.

[Antares]

Originally Posted by Mareng1

Seriously?  Look at the tread in the centre section. 

That tyre was simply taken beyond it's 'usable' life.   

The last vestiges of tread always disappear at a rate disproportionate to the general wear beforehand.

Consider 5,000 miles as being your limit, tread or not - would be my advice.

There was almost 2mm to the centre thread markers, I'm not gonna throw a tyre away with that much life. I think something might have gotten sucked up into the mudguard or I drove over some big glass piece. Look at the first picture, I took that less than 100 miles ago! All that wear happened between then and this mishap, and no I've not been doing burnouts either.

[Gothrick]

Originally Posted by Antares

I can't exactly do that haha, It's been on there since 2018 and 8000 miles, been on there when i bought the bike 2nd hand.

Also I'm gonna go with Michelin Road 5s, but the question is GT or non GT. GT has stiffer sidewalls for heavier bikes but what's the point where you wanna go GT instead or regular? My ER6F was 205kg and i ran the normals on there and it was great, XR is 225 or so so I'm on the edge whether they'd need the GT or not.

When I had a ZZR1400 I ran the GT's against popular opinion on their forum and found them superb in terms of grip and long life, however the bike did weigh 265kg!

[Mareng1]

Originally Posted by Antares

There was almost 2mm to the centre thread markers, I'm not gonna throw a tyre away with that much life. I think something might have gotten sucked up into the mudguard or I drove over some big glass piece. Look at the first picture, I took that less than 100 miles ago! All that wear happened between then and this mishap, and no I've not been doing burnouts either.

Ooookay - opinions differ.

My outlook is "I'm not gonna throw away my life with a tyre with that little tread" 

[Mareng1]

Originally Posted by Mareng1

Ooookay - opinions differ.

My outlook is "I'm not gonna throw away my life with a tyre with that little tread"

GTs seem to have been pretty 'budget' at their inception, to current day where they are well thought-of in many bike forums.

I put them in the same category as Avon Storms - very popular with the Hyabusa crowd, but maybe not top-tier in the sports/agility class.

But - none of which is relevant to Antares' tale.

[Antares]

I'm sorry but not sure in what way 2mm from the THREAD MARKER is dangerous. It's literally almost half of the tyres legal life. It's not like it was an old tyre either.

[Mareng1]

Originally Posted by Antares

I'm sorry but not sure in what way 2mm from the THREAD MARKER is dangerous. It's literally almost half of the tyres legal life. It's not like it was an old tyre either.

I honestly think that many tyres can ‘suddenly lose all vestiges of tread’ (I had a Metzeler lose what I thought would get me home in 900miles - in a morning of twisties - 50miles)

Here’s an old Triumph thread, which although got highlighted in an “angel ST” search - could quite possibly apply to many tyres/uses -

https://www.triumph-trophy.com/index.php?topic=2512.8