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    Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    on: June 13, 2021, 08:32:42 pm
    June 13, 2021, 08:32:42 pm
    Hello,

    Has anyone installed a rcs19 master cylinder on gen2 before? If yes, how was your experience? I have a mc that is free from my track bike and am thinking of install it to my xr. I didn't really like the feel of the current axial master cylinder.

    any thoughts?

    ps: My bike is the European version with stock calipers. there are no recalls yet like the bikes in the US market.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #1 on: June 13, 2021, 10:57:09 pm
    June 13, 2021, 10:57:09 pm
    have not installed, but I would check to make sure that the calipers are compatible with RCS19> I think that the piston size of the calipers on the XR are more suited to the RCS17. You could try, but may get a wooden feeling with the 'bigger' pump(RCS19) over powering the smaller calipers(32mm vs 34mm). I cannot confirm that my numbers are correct for the GEN2, but I have a Gen1 R and a Gen 1 XR and have measured those(R-34mm, XR-32mm)

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #2 on: June 13, 2021, 11:45:43 pm
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    i tried to find but couldn't get anything about gen2's caliper piston size.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #3 on: June 14, 2021, 07:33:33 am
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    I’ve got a couple of bikes that I have changed the master cylinder with great results, but what’s the point with a bike that has ABS.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #4 on: June 14, 2021, 08:20:42 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Winger [+]
    I’ve got a couple of bikes that I have changed the master cylinder with great results, but what’s the point with a bike that has ABS.

    The Same reason you do so on a non-abs bike. Get improved feel and feedback, and the possibility of increased stopping power with less input.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #5 on: June 14, 2021, 08:24:15 pm
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    brake power is really good with stock axial m/c but i can't say same thing with the feeling. So, my aim is increased feeling and more control on brakes.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #6 on: June 15, 2021, 08:18:29 am
    June 15, 2021, 08:18:29 am
    *Originally Posted by Xonar [+]
    i tried to find but couldn't get anything about gen2's caliper piston size.

    Take one off and measure the pistons.


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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #7 on: June 15, 2021, 02:02:20 pm
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    *Originally Posted by the bartender [+]
    The Same reason you do so on a non-abs bike. Get improved feel and feedback, and the possibility of increased stopping power with less input.

    If you have a bike with ABS that is ruling criteria and nothing else, hence why go to a WSB or Moto GP race you’ll not find such.

    I have a set of full floating Beringer discs on a bike...so you need earplugs all the time just for the noise they make, but have 45000 miles on them and not a slightest hint of a wear lip on them because they never get hot and bothered, but changing the master cylinder just means you are going to bump into the ABS sooner.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #8 on: July 05, 2021, 01:44:29 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Winger [+]
    If you have a bike with ABS that is ruling criteria and nothing else, hence why go to a WSB or Moto GP race you’ll not find such.

    I have a set of full floating Beringer discs on a bike...so you need earplugs all the time just for the noise they make, but have 45000 miles on them and not a slightest hint of a wear lip on them because they never get hot and bothered, but changing the master cylinder just means you are going to bump into the ABS sooner.

    Winger you have a point. ABS is the weakest link for full performance . But on my gen 1 doing track it does have alot less brake fade and I do notice some improvement over stock. Biggest gains would be to bypass abs altogether. I wouldn't go back to stock.

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    Re: Brembo RCS19 on Gen2
    Reply #9 on: July 05, 2021, 02:15:26 pm
    July 05, 2021, 02:15:26 pm
    A larger diameter master cylinder will simply give you the ability to apply full force possible - with less fingers/force on the lever.

    Braking ability may still be restricted by pad/disc materials and ultimately by ABS cutting in.   

    I've not found the brakes on my '16 XR to be lacking, TBH


     



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