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    Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    on: August 01, 2021, 05:11:33 pm
    August 01, 2021, 05:11:33 pm
    After the longest two weeks I have ever had to endure. I have my bike back from Maxton with shiny new suspension!
    Been out for some serious scratching to test it out. It took a while to adjust to the bike not misbehaving. Simply no more suspension drama. In the end, I was aiming for bumps while heeled over at speed, the suspension just soaked it up!
    In more than four hours of riding, not bucked out of my saddle once! I used to think the seat was uncomfortable, it’s fine it was just another product of the crap standard suspension.
    So in short absolutely brilliant.  :152:
    Give Maxton a call you won’t regret it.

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #1 on: August 01, 2021, 05:38:21 pm
    August 01, 2021, 05:38:21 pm
    so what did you get and what was the cost?
    Was this replacing ESA parts..any lights on the dash now?

    Hook us up with some pics and details...:)_
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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #2 on: August 01, 2021, 09:05:01 pm
    August 01, 2021, 09:05:01 pm
    *Originally Posted by Crosshairs [+]
    so what did you get and what was the cost?
    Was this replacing ESA parts..any lights on the dash now?

    Hook us up with some pics and details...:)_
    I have a 2021 S1000XR TE, this comes fitted with ESA Pro suspension, which I’m sure some people love. But I just couldn’t get on with it.
    Maxton, fitted new springs and cartridges to the forks, now three way adjustable from the fork tops.
    Rear: completely new shock and spring, four way adjustable.
    The spring and damping rates set to my weight, luggage carrying, tyres and riding style.
    I’ve only needed to add three clicks of extra compression damping to the front end. Otherwise spot on.
    Price I paid is between me and Maxton, as they used my bike as the test mule (hence two weeks). Now they have a product, the price will be around the £1800 mark.
    Tried loading pics, but failed. I need to workout how.

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #3 on: August 01, 2021, 09:20:03 pm
    August 01, 2021, 09:20:03 pm
    *Originally Posted by PapaDac [+]
    I have a 2021 S1000XR TE, this comes fitted with ESA Pro suspension, which I’m sure some people love. But I just couldn’t get on with it.
    Maxton, fitted new springs and cartridges to the forks, now three way adjustable from the fork tops.
    Rear: completely new shock and spring, four way adjustable.
    The spring and damping rates set to my weight, luggage carrying, tyres and riding style.
    I’ve only needed to add three clicks of extra compression damping to the front end. Otherwise spot on.
    Price I paid is between me and Maxton, as they used my bike as the test mule (hence two weeks). Now they have a product, the price will be around the £1800 mark.
    Tried loading pics, but failed. I need to workout how.
    Yeah, I have a 2018 and its OK but not great...all my other bikes I have always had high end suspension done so Im kind of spoiled...£1800 is around $2500 US so that price is spot on with what most vendors are charging for front and rear ...how do they handle the light in the cluster? is there a bypass you can plug in or is the light on now?
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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #4 on: August 01, 2021, 09:26:06 pm
    August 01, 2021, 09:26:06 pm
    You missed the punch line about the electrics not being connected ?, and the reason i’m Interested despite buying a non ESA X/R that has a rear Wilbers,have a KTM GT with electric sus and have the same issues with it as you on your X/R, but it’s the dongles that need to be connected to shut the electrics up that i’m Interested in ?.

    See Crosshairs beat me to the same punchline.
    Last Edit: August 01, 2021, 09:27:45 pm by Winger

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #5 on: August 01, 2021, 10:48:51 pm
    August 01, 2021, 10:48:51 pm
    Well, I have a new yellow light showing on my very fancy TFT dashboard :003:
    But there is hope. For the Gen 1 there are some solutions. But not yet for the Gen 2.
    However, I have spoken with someone who believes he has a fix. Apparently, something needs turning of in the TFT. I’ll report back later this week when he gets a look at my bike.
    I guess that’s the fun of being the first one to take ESA off a Gen 2 XR. :015:

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #6 on: August 02, 2021, 07:40:38 am
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    Interesting thread..and even more interesting to see how long your bike goes with a warning light on before the system spits its dummy out if your contact doesn’t come up with a solution.

    Re the Gen1 solution I know I have a bad memory but do not recall a similar thread as this for a Gen1 has anyone done it on here or did I miss the thread  :034:, or more to the point what are the solutions for the earlier bike, because as time goes on threads like this are going to be a lot more common just from age and wear.

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #7 on: August 02, 2021, 09:02:05 am
    August 02, 2021, 09:02:05 am
    I don't remember seeing any thread or group of posts on the Ser1 suspension upgrades to Maxton.

    I don't think the cost is too bad, and could be worthwhile doing before the electronic suspension chucks its hand in.


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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #8 on: August 02, 2021, 10:47:51 am
    August 02, 2021, 10:47:51 am
    *Originally Posted by Mareng1 [+]
    I don't remember seeing any thread or group of posts on the Ser1 suspension upgrades to Maxton.

    I don't think the cost is too bad, and could be worthwhile doing before the electronic suspension chucks its hand in.
    I’ve not seen anything on here regarding Gen 1 suspension light fixes. It just from my own research before getting my suspension done. I can’t recall who does what, but there is a widget you can plug-in which fools the system. Also you can turn it off via the ECU.
    As for the Gen 2, Nitron are working on a widget no idea when it’ll be available. You can’t fix it via ECU route. It’s only fixable via TFT, using BMW Racing teams software. As no one uses ESA for S1000RR racing BMW came up with a solution. At least that’s what I know so far, I’ll find out if that fix works on XR’s soon.
    Maxton suspension, have done lots of Gen 1 bikes, so that is available ‘off the shelf’, the price is in the same range as for Gen 2.

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    Re: Gen 2 Suspension Upgrade
    Reply #9 on: August 02, 2021, 01:53:14 pm
    August 02, 2021, 01:53:14 pm
    Gen 1 is easy you just need a 30W power resistor connected across to make it think the valve is still connected, there is no complicated feedback to take care of. It just needs to see the load.

    I can't remember what value I used I can look if anyone is interested.

    I don't use the dongles anymore as I had the DSA suspension turned off when I had the bike flashed.


     



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