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    S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    on: August 11, 2021, 04:51:06 am
    August 11, 2021, 04:51:06 am
    Hello

    I switch from a 2016 s1000Xr to the 2021 model.
    First the low end torque is lacking compare to the previous model. It is easy to stall. Should it get better after the first service? I doubt it.
    Do you think that removing the servo to get the flap exhaust open will increase the torque. Between 2000 to 6000?

    Thanks

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #1 on: August 11, 2021, 05:50:33 am
    August 11, 2021, 05:50:33 am
    *Originally Posted by lcarron [+]
    Hello

    I switch from a 2016 s1000Xr to the 2021 model.
    First the low end torque is lacking compare to the previous model. It is easy to stall. Should it get better after the first service? I doubt it.
    Do you think that removing the servo to get the flap exhaust open will increase the torque. Between 2000 to 6000?

    Thanks

    No it won't, the exhaust flap is there to help with Euro-5 requirements, similar to the Gen-1 Euro3 & 4 requirements....but a good remap and a proper exhaust will certainly help the engine breath as it was meant to, but some country's strict laws won't allow this. We need to understand that BMW has to comply with Euro-5 requirements with the Gen-2.... and this of course means the bike performance will suffer in certain areas. They're still a good performer in the high rpm ranges though.

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #2 on: August 11, 2021, 08:18:40 am
    August 11, 2021, 08:18:40 am
    My Gen 2 has stalled a few times when I'm relying or torque to pull away. The hill hold feature when on auto doesn't help so I've turned that off. Probably its worst feature is that fluffy feeling when trying to modulate revs when pulling away as the engine falls flat just as you want it to pick up. I've ended up using a bit of clutch slippage to get it rolling or I have to treat every traffic light like a race start (kindof) . It seems slightly better in dynamic pro but I need to do back t back checks on in case I just end up in race start mode whilst in Dynamic Pro  :164: and sometimes I want to use road or dynamic mode if I'm not in a rag the backside off it mood?

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #3 on: August 11, 2021, 11:00:07 am
    August 11, 2021, 11:00:07 am
    *Originally Posted by Macduff [+]
    My Gen 2 has stalled a few times when I'm relying or torque to pull away. The hill hold feature when on auto doesn't help so I've turned that off. Probably its worst feature is that fluffy feeling when trying to modulate revs when pulling away as the engine falls flat just as you want it to pick up. I've ended up using a bit of clutch slippage to get it rolling or I have to treat every traffic light like a race start (kindof) . It seems slightly better in dynamic pro but I need to do back t back checks on in case I just end up in race start mode whilst in Dynamic Pro  :164: and sometimes I want to use road or dynamic mode if I'm not in a rag the backside off it mood?

    I thought this bike had start assist, raises revs to avoid stalling

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #4 on: August 11, 2021, 01:02:59 pm
    August 11, 2021, 01:02:59 pm
    Start assist is an optional extra only when the warranty runs out...... :151:

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #5 on: August 11, 2021, 01:16:37 pm
    August 11, 2021, 01:16:37 pm
    I've not had my M-sport stall as yet I did manage to clip the kill switch on the tank bag on a very tight U-turn DOH#

    My big pet hate so for is the constant hunting on tick over, DAM Euro-5 crap,  if it was carbs you'd be getting the old carburetors balance vac gates out!
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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #6 on: August 11, 2021, 03:04:56 pm
    August 11, 2021, 03:04:56 pm
    My XR Sport continued to stall even after the 1st service. Went to the Bren Tune Stage 1: NO MORE ISSUES!!!

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #7 on: August 11, 2021, 07:40:45 pm
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    Can’t say I’ve had any issues,except that one occasion where I tried to pull away in 3rd thinking I was in 1st :164:

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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #8 on: August 12, 2021, 06:29:29 am
    August 12, 2021, 06:29:29 am
    I think you will get used to it.

    I had a 2016 R1200 RS when I bought my 2019 S1000XR.  I kept stalling the XR starting from a stand still, it had less torque than the 1200, I told myself.  Then I traded my 2016 R1200 RS for a 2020 R1250 RS and I starting stalling the new RS when starting from a stand still, even though, by now, I no longer stalled the 2019 XR.

    Conclusion:  the throttle response starting from a stop were different, but I got used to it.  I think you will too.
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    Re: S1000xr gen 2. Easy to stall
    Reply #9 on: August 14, 2021, 10:50:36 pm
    August 14, 2021, 10:50:36 pm
    You'll slowly adjust to it.

     



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