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    An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    on: October 21, 2021, 09:06:11 am
    October 21, 2021, 09:06:11 am
    Well having been off work with bad cold for a few days and only day time TV for company I got board and had a read of this.

    Look it's just a little better then day time TV. :009:

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1021000/future-of-transport-regulatory-review-modernising-vehicle-standards-print-version.pdf

    It makes for some interesting reading if you can wade thought it.

    Come up with your own conclusions on the future of modifying your new bike's.
    After over thirty + years behind the bars, there's still lots to do and see.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #1 on: October 21, 2021, 02:53:34 pm
    October 21, 2021, 02:53:34 pm
    Not surprised to see this but annoying none the less. What counts as "tampering though" Changing suspension geometry by dropping forks could technically be argued as tampering with components that reduce the safety of the motorcycle because "it was not as designed". On the other hand this can be a bollocks argument because you could say stock jerky fuelling is dangerous at low speeds and having a tune fixed it whilst improving performance and efficiency. Ofc this will be aimed at all the fun parts just to piss people off... Hopefully there'll be provisions for old vehicles in this staying as they are.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #2 on: October 21, 2021, 04:31:30 pm
    October 21, 2021, 04:31:30 pm
    2 page article in MCN this week about it.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #3 on: October 21, 2021, 09:10:16 pm
    October 21, 2021, 09:10:16 pm
    I suspect that it will all fall to the MOT station, as there are no resources to enforce any rules - on the road.

    The big hurdle will be if any mods render the whole bike as being 'illegal on the road' rather than the current 'exhaust is not legal for on-road use'.   That may allow Insurance companies to refuse cover or payout, maybe.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #4 on: October 22, 2021, 08:43:34 am
    October 22, 2021, 08:43:34 am
    If they would class adding givi luggage or a tomtom satnav or a go pro camera etc as a non standard modification that would have huge implications on so many bikes and so many companies that make all these useful, non performance and non environmentally impacting products (apparently one of the reasons they are proposing this new legislation) that we all use and love. A real bag of worms there.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #5 on: October 22, 2021, 09:16:19 pm
    October 22, 2021, 09:16:19 pm
    Talking of which i’m Amazed no one has bought the PC on eBay and no nothing to do with me, but considering what a game changer they are.....

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #6 on: October 26, 2021, 01:31:29 pm
    October 26, 2021, 01:31:29 pm
    It seems that this rule is mostly been made up to stop people fiddling with "Driverless" cars  :005:

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #7 on: October 27, 2021, 10:15:00 am
    October 27, 2021, 10:15:00 am
    *Originally Posted by Belco100 [+]
    It seems that this rule is mostly been made up to stop people fiddling with "Driverless" cars  :005:

    I think it is imperative that they make driverless vehicles in such a way they cannot be modified (for obvious reasons) however by bringing in such draconian laws as proposed it will bring issues. As Mareng1 says if it down to the MOT tester to validate for no changes getting an MOT on a bike with the slightest modification could prove difficult once/if it becomes law and it will no doubt put more work on the MOT testers so cost of MOT will probably go up. If you put a bike back to standard then modify it again after MOT you risk being pulled by an officious police officer who will give you a hard time and probably a fine (and maybe points on the licence) - that is assuming there are any police officers left on the streets.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #8 on: October 27, 2021, 11:08:20 am
    October 27, 2021, 11:08:20 am
    *Originally Posted by bobdave [+]
    I think it is imperative that they make driverless vehicles in such a way they cannot be modified (for obvious reasons) however by bringing in such draconian laws as proposed it will bring issues. As Mareng1 says if it down to the MOT tester to validate for no changes getting an MOT on a bike with the slightest modification could prove difficult once/if it becomes law and it will no doubt put more work on the MOT testers so cost of MOT will probably go up. If you put a bike back to standard then modify it again after MOT you risk being pulled by an officious police officer who will give you a hard time and probably a fine (and maybe points on the licence) - that is assuming there are any police officers left on the streets.
    You are also assuming that police officers have the knowledge or the authority of an MOT examiner.
    I wonder if this is EU wide and how France would regulate it as we have no MOTs of any sort for motorcycles here.

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    Re: An interesting "Future of transport regulatory review consultation"
    Reply #9 on: October 27, 2021, 01:23:21 pm
    October 27, 2021, 01:23:21 pm
    *Originally Posted by Belco100 [+]
    It seems that this rule is mostly been made up to stop people fiddling with "Driverless" cars  :005:


    I don’t think it is, your thinking way too far down the road, the TUV take exception to the fact that they can force manufacturers to put a hole in the fuel map at 4250 revs on a pollution basis, but the average guy in the street can go and buy a Power Commander and get around it...that’s what they are after, along with all the current speed limits on motorways to drive at 60mph or less to also cutting pollution.