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    Current v Previous Gen
    on: February 21, 2022, 05:18:28 pm
    February 21, 2022, 05:18:28 pm
    Here's a question for those that have moved from the old to the latest Gen.

    I've currently got the old model and bloody love it. It's pretty much perfect for what I want from a bike. All day comfortable and a hoot when in the mood. It still makes me smile every ride. Trouble is it's getting a bit leggy now and I can't be bothered with things going wrong and spending any more time at the service centre than I possible have too.

    Took the latest one out for a test ride and whilst it is still a massively capable machine and definitely more polished than the old one it's almost too civilised. There's no pops and bangs, it's lost the intake howl and in the lower rev range  feels like it's stuck in rain mode. There's no animal aggression although still bloody fast.

    So now I'm in a bit of a quandary. Swap for new or stay put.

    Those of you that have made the move did you find the newer model has attributes that come out over time that make up for the excitement of the old bike that I didn't notice on my limited test ride. Do you appreciate the new just as much but in a slightly different way ?

    I want to go new, I like the looks and the narrower bars. I just need too be sold as I'm not convinced. When I bought my current bike I knew it was the one within a mile of the dealer. The new one I'm not so sure.
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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #1 on: February 21, 2022, 05:30:57 pm
    February 21, 2022, 05:30:57 pm
    what age and mileage do you consider "leggy"?


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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #2 on: February 21, 2022, 05:44:39 pm
    February 21, 2022, 05:44:39 pm
    Hey,
    I have a Gen2 the M-sport so fancy colours and the M-sport chain and akrapovic end can, yes it's like 10 to 15% better all-round the quick shift is much better gear box is just better geared it sits nice at the motorway speeds than the Gen1.

    As for the popping and banning got a bit Pha sometimes with it on the Gen 1, I've not missed it but the odd time I've thought a nice pop would have been nice on the down shift.

    The vibrations are better not gone don’t get me wrong but better.

    We did a trip up to Scotland we had a day scratching about two up hit 47% a couple of times my partner was ok with the lean angle, we came back in one go sat on the M6 A50 and M1 to get home in Leicester “it was Fecking lashing it down most of the way back” hence the motorway but the bike was easy all the way back 300 miles plus we did just over 200miles on a tank well happy.

    Yes the Gen one is a Nutter if you go for it and you know it’s a nutter, I’d say the Gen 2 is just a nut’s but with a slightly less aggressive attitude. How can I put it the Gen 1 is Ronnie Kray where at the Gen 2 is more Ronnie Kray.  Both will try and kill you just one a little more polite about it!


    After over thirty + years behind the bars, there's still lots to do and see.

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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #3 on: February 21, 2022, 06:40:23 pm
    February 21, 2022, 06:40:23 pm
    What do you mean by leggy? I doubt the reliability is going to go off much unless you have bonkers mileage on it. I’ve had my gen 1 for 5 years, it’s great. I have test ridden the gen 2 several times, and whilst it is slightly better in most areas I couldn’t justify the change to myself. I own it and am not on the PCP treadmill. How long have you had yours?
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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #4 on: February 21, 2022, 06:46:39 pm
    February 21, 2022, 06:46:39 pm
    *Originally Posted by Becksy [+]
    What do you mean by leggy? I doubt the reliability is going to go off much unless you have bonkers mileage on it. I’ve had my gen 1 for 5 years, it’s great. I have test ridden the gen 2 several times, and whilst it is slightly better in most areas I couldn’t justify the change to myself. I own it, and am not on a PCP treadmill. How long have you had yours?

    I'm sitting in the same tree!

    To get a new or newish bike I would have to trade in both of my 2016 bikes and add a ton of cash or PCP. Neither of the new versions of my XR & R1200RS have enough of a gain to make me want to change to a single bike. I can keep the XR for touring and sunny Sundays and ride the shaft drive RS through winter or when commuting.

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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #5 on: February 21, 2022, 08:14:56 pm
    February 21, 2022, 08:14:56 pm
    I made the jump to the new one, and I hate to say it, but I kinda regret it.

    Technically it is the "better" bike in pretty much every regard, but it's pretty soulless.

    I miss the sound, the slightly gruff fuelling, the slightly less sorted suspension/chassis and that feeling of having a bike that is functionally worthless (leave it anywhere, ride it anywhere, never give it a second thought).

    I ran my gen one to near 60k kms, for the most part zero issues and it was certainly not babied.


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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #6 on: February 21, 2022, 08:38:41 pm
    February 21, 2022, 08:38:41 pm
    *Originally Posted by wessie [+]
    I'm sitting in the same tree!


    Might be a slightly different assessment if one is sitting on the PCP merry go round!

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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #7 on: February 22, 2022, 07:49:54 am
    February 22, 2022, 07:49:54 am
    *Originally Posted by Harry H [+]
    Here's a question for those that have moved from the old to the latest Gen.

    I've currently got the old model and bloody love it. It's pretty much perfect for what I want from a bike. All day comfortable and a hoot when in the mood. It still makes me smile every ride. Trouble is it's getting a bit leggy now and I can't be bothered with things going wrong and spending any more time at the service centre than I possible have too.

    Took the latest one out for a test ride and whilst it is still a massively capable machine and definitely more polished than the old one it's almost too civilised. There's no pops and bangs, it's lost the intake howl and in the lower rev range  feels like it's stuck in rain mode. There's no animal aggression although still bloody fast.

    So now I'm in a bit of a quandary. Swap for new or stay put.

    Those of you that have made the move did you find the newer model has attributes that come out over time that make up for the excitement of the old bike that I didn't notice on my limited test ride. Do you appreciate the new just as much but in a slightly different way ?

    I want to go new, I like the looks and the narrower bars. I just need too be sold as I'm not convinced. When I bought my current bike I knew it was the one within a mile of the dealer. The new one I'm not so sure.

    H, buy the new one and keep the old one, if you don't like the new one, sell it to me at a much reduced rate.. :164: simples..  :008:

    Seriously H, buy new, you only pass this way once and not for long, you'll regret the things you didn't try mate.. and have you still got the Tuono tucked away? I'm sure that will pop and bang for you if you're in the mood..  :007:

    windy
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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #8 on: February 22, 2022, 08:41:23 am
    February 22, 2022, 08:41:23 am
    I also test rode the gen2 and came away thinking that its a very capable bike but a little soulless so I'm sticking with my gen1 for now as it makes me smile every time I ride it.

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    Re: Current v Previous Gen
    Reply #9 on: February 22, 2022, 10:27:32 am
    February 22, 2022, 10:27:32 am
    *Originally Posted by af1-windy [+]
    H, buy the new one and keep the old one, if you don't like the new one, sell it to me at a much reduced rate.. :164: simples..  :008:

    Seriously H, buy new, you only pass this way once and not for long, you'll regret the things you didn't try mate.. and have you still got the Tuono tucked away? I'm sure that will pop and bang for you if you're in the mood..  :007:

    windy

    Still the got the Tuono although it hasn't moved for 3 years. Needs a new battery, MOT and flogging really. Trouble is I'll ride it to the MOT centre and fall in love with it again, refuse to sell it and it'll just sit there like last time.

    So far we've had a few upgraders and whilst they all agree new is very accomplished I'm not hearing the love and excitement for it like the Gen 1.

    I used to be indecisive  but now I'm not so sure :008: