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    Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    on: March 25, 2022, 12:01:19 am
    March 25, 2022, 12:01:19 am
    Just purchased a Gen 1 with nav cradle installed. I run a TomTom rider 550 and was wondering if anyone had successfully used the automotive 3D Motorrad adaptor plates?

    If not, are there any viable alternatives for an OEM looking plug and play ?

    Thirdly what features does the connected cradle give a non TFT user and is it a viable solution? By this I mean does it work well, or another gimic?

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #1 on: March 25, 2022, 07:54:53 am
    March 25, 2022, 07:54:53 am
    *Originally Posted by BCB [+]
    Just purchased a Gen 1 with nav cradle installed. I run a TomTom rider 550 and was wondering if anyone had successfully used the automotive 3D Motorrad adaptor plates?

    If not, are there any viable alternatives for an OEM looking plug and play ?

    Thirdly what features does the connected cradle give a non TFT user and is it a viable solution? By this I mean does it work well, or another gimic?

    Hi BCB, I had exactly the same situation when I bought me Gen1 last November. I was just about to buy a cable and convert the bike to take my TomTom 500 then a Nav6 came up on Gumtree for £300, it had only been used for one trip, proper bargain.  :001:

    I'm still getting used to how Garmin work/look as opposed TomTom. To me, something that you only use about half of what it can do is a gimmick so yes, it's really a gimmicky thing, but the bit I'm using is very good. It's a nice solid unit and I guess there's stuff it can do that I may even need one day, who knows. Others on here that use the multi controller on the left hand grip will hopefully chime in and let you know if it's very useful passed being a SatNav.  :028:

    So, if you can pick one up for a reasonable price, go for it, sell the 550 and recoup some dosh or, buy the plug and mount your TomTom, I'd have been happy with this if the Nav6 hadn't popped up at such a good price.

    I think Nippy Normans do a plug. :084:

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #2 on: March 25, 2022, 09:09:39 am
    March 25, 2022, 09:09:39 am
    *Originally Posted by BCB [+]
    Just purchased a Gen 1 with nav cradle installed. I run a TomTom rider 550 and was wondering if anyone had successfully used the automotive 3D Motorrad adaptor plates?

    If not, are there any viable alternatives for an OEM looking plug and play ?

    Thirdly what features does the connected cradle give a non TFT user and is it a viable solution? By this I mean does it work well, or another gimic?

    Specifically as a non TFT unit it's way better than it is on Gen 2s. On the Gen 1, whilst as Windy said most of it is gimmicks, it lets you see a bunch of info that otherwise you can't access. or not as easy to see. Best part about it is the Smartphone link app with the most amazing speed camera library I have ever seen and the easy to access weather forecast. Apart from this it can show you things like detailed messages of error codes instead of just the triangle and a 5 letter message like "LAMPS!", it can show battery voltage, and in the my motorcycle tab even really gimmicky stuff like how many times you shifted, how many times you braked, whether its front or rear brakes, average engine temp etc... Then it also has the usual useful GPS features, heading, elevation, traffic avoidance, road closures (its generally good for main roads but i doubt any GPS would know if some side road in a backwater hamlet is shut for an overnight repair work), one of the other most useful features I find is "Tracback" it basically leaves a trail wherever you have ridden so if you're in an area where a mate has shown you a good route, but you can't remember exactly where to go, you can just follow your blue line easily.

     That's basically a summary of why I personally love the Navi. If it didn't have the whole bike integration thing, or i had a Gen 2 with the TFT, i may very well just use my phone as a GPS.

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #3 on: March 25, 2022, 09:16:24 am
    March 25, 2022, 09:16:24 am
    Antares just so I’m clear, the £200 connected cradle and my iPhone running the BMW connected app can give me all that information on a 19 SE?!!
    If so, might take a punt

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #4 on: March 25, 2022, 09:19:30 am
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    *Originally Posted by BCB [+]
    Antares just so I’m clear, the £200 connected cradle and my iPhone running the BMW connected app can give me all that information on a 19 SE?!!
    If so, might take a punt

    The smartphone link app only provides the up to date camera, traffic and weather data, rest is all stored on the Bike or done by the Navi itself, just as a disclaimer the Navi 5 is a little slow at planning with traffic on but the 6 is faster (pretty much identical in all other functions tho) also forgot to mention the "curvy roads" planning setting which i found has a pretty decent sense of finding nice little roads
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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #5 on: March 25, 2022, 09:21:34 am
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    Ahh ok. Soo for full experience really it looks like I should get the BMW NAVI. I do like the wonderwheel so I’ll keep my eyes open for a cheap navigation

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #6 on: March 25, 2022, 09:25:20 am
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    Ahh ok. Soo for full experience really it looks like I should get the BMW NAVI. I do like the wonderwheel so I’ll keep my eyes open for a cheap navigation

    Oh  yea and forgot that too, wonder wheel is pretty useful although not integrated in completely the best manner, to cancel or enter routes you still have to touch the navi screen, you can use the wheel though for checking stats, setting route home, zooming in and out, setting detours (in case of closed road) and a few other tidbits.

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #7 on: March 25, 2022, 09:27:54 am
    March 25, 2022, 09:27:54 am
    you can get different adaptors for tomtom in the market now. I found hte following to be simple and easy.

    https://www.adventurebikeshop.co.uk/satnav-phones/3d-am-e-nav-400500-tomtom-mount-bmw-r12001250gs-gsa-rs-750850gs/

    I use the wunderlich adaptor which does not have power, so you have to get the cable from dealer to plug it to the bmw acessories cable.

    https://www.wunderlich.de/shop/en/bmw-s-serie/s-1000-xr-ab-2020/navigation-motomedia/haltesysteme/wunderlich-instrument-holder-for-original-navigation-systems-21170-202.html

    I prefer tomtom as I already have it and used to it. although it doesnt integrate with bike, that does'nt bother me.

    another alternative is to remove the bmw cradle and install the tomtom directly on the bike. just get the power cable from bmw dealer for £9. following is the part number. plugs into same plug as the factory fitted nav mount.

    part number: 83300413585

    On the BMW 3 Pin Repair Plug (multi use) you will note that the 3 wires are numbered, 1,2 and 3. Wire 2 is not required so you can cut if off, or just ignore it and heat shrink it later.

    Solder the Black TomTom wire (neg/earth) to Wire 1 on the BMW Connector.

    Solder the Red TomTom wire (live) to Wire 3 on the BMW Connector.

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #8 on: March 25, 2022, 10:44:30 am
    March 25, 2022, 10:44:30 am
    *Originally Posted by surik116 [+]

    another alternative is to remove the bmw cradle and install the tomtom directly on the bike. just get the power cable from bmw dealer for £9. following is the part number. plugs into same plug as the factory fitted nav mount.

    part number: 83300413585

    On the BMW 3 Pin Repair Plug (multi use) you will note that the 3 wires are numbered, 1,2 and 3. Wire 2 is not required so you can cut if off, or just ignore it and heat shrink it later.

    Solder the Black TomTom wire (neg/earth) to Wire 1 on the BMW Connector.

    Solder the Red TomTom wire (live) to Wire 3 on the BMW Connector.


    I'd have taken this route if the Nav6 that I got off of gumtree hadn't been so cheap, also, it was in Wales and I happen to be in Wales on a long weekend with my other half.. sometimes you just get lucky..  :164:  :008:

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    Re: Gen 1 BMW nav cradle options
    Reply #9 on: March 25, 2022, 10:50:14 am
    March 25, 2022, 10:50:14 am
    *Originally Posted by surik116 [+]
    you can get different adaptors for tomtom in the market now. I found hte following to be simple and easy.

    https://www.adventurebikeshop.co.uk/satnav-phones/3d-am-e-nav-400500-tomtom-mount-bmw-r12001250gs-gsa-rs-750850gs/


    Legend. A uk distributor for the part I wanted

     



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