Gen 2 XR and Off-road

[inctomi]

I am sure most of us wouldn't not take the XR offroad. Even though BMW and insurance databases classify this as a adventure bike (thank you Progressive for much cheaper rate compared to the R and RR), this is just an adventure-looking street bike. However, there are idiots that do. I just recently bought a '21 Gen 2 from a dealer and it started a slight oil leak. Turns out the idiot who traded it in took the bike off-road and cracked the front of the oil pan and used JB-Weld to "fix" the issue. May be the previous owner was/is a member on this forum and read this. I hope you have your date with karma soon. The bike was from Arizona. 

I understand you might say why didn't inspect the bike but I have never did that thorough of a job of checking any bikes I bought especially from a dealer as long as there was no visible oil leak or something similar.

[Antares]

Originally Posted by inctomi

I am sure most of us wouldn't not take the XR offroad. Even though BMW and insurance databases classify this as a adventure bike (thank you Progressive for much cheaper rate compared to the R and RR), this is just an adventure-looking street bike. However, there are idiots that do. I just recently bought a '21 Gen 2 from a dealer and it started a slight oil leak. Turns out the idiot who traded it in took the bike off-road and cracked the front of the oil pan and used JB-Weld to "fix" the issue. May be the previous owner was/is a member on this forum and read this. I hope you have your date with karma soon. The bike was from Arizona. 

I understand you might say why didn't inspect the bike but I have never did that thorough of a job of checking any bikes I bought especially from a dealer as long as there was no visible oil leak or something similar.

 

No rebate through the dealer? And yes the XR is NOT an offroader, no-one should ever assume so when buying this bike. Adventure doesn't necessarily mean off road either, you can have an adventure on the motorway 

[inctomi]

My selling dealer whom I have a great relationship with is about 4 hrs away so I didn’t go there initially. I thought this would have been a simple gasket issue or something but I did let the dealer know and they are working something out with me. Kudos to the dealer team.

[inctomi]

  Agreed that this is meant for adventure on the pavement..

[Becksy]

Don’t take it on the pavement! 

[LeftCoastKen]

I think calling somebody an idiot for taking a XR off pavement is a bit harsh.  The issue here is, the dealer that obviously did not perform a proper inspection on the bike before trade in or sale.  Yes it should not be taken on single/dual track trails were greater suspension travel and ground clearance are needed, which the owner in question bay have done, but the XR does just fine on graded gravel and forest services roads.  I have racked up thousands of km on gravel forest service roads on my Gen1 XR with no ill effects.  Insurance and storage cost are prohibitive in my region of the world, so owning more than one bike is not possible.  Personally I did not want to give up on road performance for the need to ride the occasional gravel road.  As long as the bike has the adequate protection and you don't ride beyond your or the bikes abilities, there is no reason to pigeon hole a bike to 100% pavement.

[inctomi]

Ok, fair enough and I see your point. Forest roads and fire roads are ok but he seemed to have take it a bit further on sport tires which I don’t know why someone would do it. Unless he accidentally fell upon it somehow.

[Antares]

Originally Posted by LeftCoastKen

I think calling somebody an idiot for taking a XR off pavement is a bit harsh.  The issue here is, the dealer that obviously did not perform a proper inspection on the bike before trade in or sale.  Yes it should not be taken on single/dual track trails were greater suspension travel and ground clearance are needed, which the owner in question bay have done, but the XR does just fine on graded gravel and forest services roads.  I have racked up thousands of km on gravel forest service roads on my Gen1 XR with no ill effects.  Insurance and storage cost are prohibitive in my region of the world, so owning more than one bike is not possible.  Personally I did not want to give up on road performance for the need to ride the occasional gravel road.  As long as the bike has the adequate protection and you don't ride beyond your or the bikes abilities, there is no reason to pigeon hole a bike to 100% pavement.

That was my only implication too, but being pedantic a fire road or gravel road doesn't really classify as "off-road" not sure about sport tyres being comfortable on them but i've been on gravel roads with sport bikes just fine, once you start getting ruts and undulations and jumps and rocks/logs, now the XR shouldn't be anywhere near those, no matter what testing they did on Motorcyclist magazine, or that one crazy BMW stunt guy, just because it survived, doesn't mean it should be taken on that type of terrain...

[LeftCoastKen]

The beginning of this YouTube video (

) is about the worst I'm comfortable with on the XR.  If people think I'm am idiot for riding it in those conditions, then I am happy to be an Idiot.  My corner of the world has some of the most scenic destinations on the planet.  With only one bike, I'd consider myself crazy to pass up these destinations because it's requires riding a bit of dirt and gravel.

[Antares]

Originally Posted by LeftCoastKen

The beginning of this YouTube video (

) is about the worst I'm comfortable with on the XR.  If people think I'm am idiot for riding it in those conditions, then I am happy to be an Idiot.  My corner of the world has some of the most scenic destinations on the planet.  With only one bike, I'd consider myself crazy to pass up these destinations because it's requires riding a bit of dirt and gravel.

That's about what I had in mind too, but I'd personally avoid those road unless I have to take them. As I said though, jumps, berms, ruts... Not so much... All we need to keep in mind is this bike doesn't have ADV suspension travel, it's got wheels made of cheese, massive 190 rear tyres with no proper off road options with beefed up carcasses (maybe with the exception of the new Dunlop Mutants) It's got an oil pan that sticks out the bottom, and a completely unsuitable engine characteristic for off road riding. That's all, if you're happy with that on gravel roads then all is good, what the previous owner of OP did though to crack an oil pan... Well that's a whole another story.