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    Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    on: July 15, 2022, 04:18:26 pm
    July 15, 2022, 04:18:26 pm
    Hey everyone!
    After doing almost 1200km in 4 days on my Z900 I'm done. I went into a dealer and they had a 2019 S1000xr factory lowered (used 20000km) and I fell in love instantly. Unfortunately I didn't have time to test ride it since I had a service on the Z I couldn't miss.
    I also had a chance to sit on a brand new XR where I serviced my bike that wasn't lowered and unfortunately enough they didn't have a demo version of it yet.
    So now when I've looked through all the BMWs shortening for their fancy electronics on the XR I'm kinda overwhelmed.

    Myself is aiming to do around a 2 week tour next summer therefor going for the XR. Most likely gonna be a used one 15-19 or a 2020

    So I want some input from the people that actually have some experience with the bike.

    Drawbacks Gen 1 vs Gen 2

    Any of the electronics that I should prioritize?(Mostly what I'm confused about Riding mode PRO & Dyn ESA PRO) Are they the same?

    Any bigger/expensive services that needs to be done at a dealership/mechanic?(I've done the services myself on the Z, Fluids/Filters/Sparkplugs etc)

    Experience with the seat cushing?(Since I'm a shorter driver I probably looking for a lowered version of the bike, maybe lowered seat?)

    I probably have a lot more questions coming up during the coming days.
    This is also my new member introduction.
    If you have any questions throw them at me.

    Regards Max, Sweden
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    Last Edit: July 15, 2022, 05:53:34 pm by Max

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #1 on: July 16, 2022, 05:56:09 am
    July 16, 2022, 05:56:09 am
    The 30,000 km service is a big one (valves - lots of labour) - that may factor into the price for your 20,000 km buy.

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #2 on: July 16, 2022, 10:06:16 am
    July 16, 2022, 10:06:16 am
    *Originally Posted by Deano747 [+]
    The 30,000 km service is a big one (valves - lots of labour) - that may factor into the price for your 20,000 km buy.

    Thanks!

    When I'm looking at used bikes here in Sweden a lot of them got the "Nordic package". Been trying to find what this means from what I've found so far it's purely cosmetics/comfort.

    However the "Dynamic package" is the Gen 2 "Performance package"?

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #3 on: July 16, 2022, 08:15:37 pm
    July 16, 2022, 08:15:37 pm
    *Originally Posted by Max [+]
    Thanks!

    When I'm looking at used bikes here in Sweden a lot of them got the "Nordic package". Been trying to find what this means from what I've found so far it's purely cosmetics/comfort.

    However the "Dynamic package" is the Gen 2 "Performance package"?

    So it is super unlikely to find Gen 1 or Gen 2 XRs that aren't fully loaded. They all usually have everything on them since people rarely buy the base models for only a little bit less.

    First differences between Gen 1 and Gen 2:

    Gen 1 is more agile, bit rawer, it's the more sporty of the 2 bikes but is also harsher and got a bit older electronics.

    Gen 2 is much softer and smoother although depending on who you ask, arguably less comfortable.

    Gen 2 has the same core electronics as the Gen 1 (riding modes, lean abs, dynamic tc, etc) and they work similarly well.

    Gen 2 has a few extra electronics (hill hold, automatic preload instead of 3 presets and SOS button as an option) and quality of life improvements such as the big TFT, and phone integration.

    The Suspension on the Gen 1 is harder all around, Gen 2 is softer, however the damping settings have a greater range of adjustability on the Gen 2. Changing between dynamic and road has a bigger difference on the Gen 2 than the Gen 1.

    Dynamic ESA Pro package includes the electronic suspension, Riding modes Pro means you get access to Dynamic and Dynamic Pro riding modes (Dynamic for sporty street riding, Dynamic pro disables a lot of assists whilst still keeping some for track riding)

    None of the services need to be specifically done at the dealer if you're not worried about warranty, they are all doable at home and require little to no special tools besides a torx set, although it's a good idea to buy a GS-911 or the Motoscan tool for access to service functions such as ABS bleed or resetting engine adaptations.

    I hope that answered most of your questions, if you have any others do ask and I'll try my best  :028:

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #4 on: July 17, 2022, 09:44:20 am
    July 17, 2022, 09:44:20 am
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    So it is super unlikely to find Gen 1 or Gen 2 XRs that aren't fully loaded. They all usually have everything on them since people rarely buy the base models for only a little bit less.

    First differences between Gen 1 and Gen 2:

    Gen 1 is more agile, bit rawer, it's the more sporty of the 2 bikes but is also harsher and got a bit older electronics.

    Gen 2 is much softer and smoother although depending on who you ask, arguably less comfortable.

    Gen 2 has the same core electronics as the Gen 1 (riding modes, lean abs, dynamic tc, etc) and they work similarly well.

    Gen 2 has a few extra electronics (hill hold, automatic preload instead of 3 presets and SOS button as an option) and quality of life improvements such as the big TFT, and phone integration.

    The Suspension on the Gen 1 is harder all around, Gen 2 is softer, however the damping settings have a greater range of adjustability on the Gen 2. Changing between dynamic and road has a bigger difference on the Gen 2 than the Gen 1.

    Dynamic ESA Pro package includes the electronic suspension, Riding modes Pro means you get access to Dynamic and Dynamic Pro riding modes (Dynamic for sporty street riding, Dynamic pro disables a lot of assists whilst still keeping some for track riding)

    None of the services need to be specifically done at the dealer if you're not worried about warranty, they are all doable at home and require little to no special tools besides a torx set, although it's a good idea to buy a GS-911 or the Motoscan tool for access to service functions such as ABS bleed or resetting engine adaptations.

    I hope that answered most of your questions, if you have any others do ask and I'll try my best  :028:

    Thanks really cleaned up a lot and sorry for making  a wall with the quote.

    Yea I'm starting to see a pattern looking at used XRs that most of them got some extra options just that some of them don't type it out / don't know.

    As an example: The Gen 1 if it has driving mode PRO it means it got the Dynamic ESA pro?

    What I'm looking for in my next bike is bit better comfort for longevity (most of all more wind protection) and better forks / shock. The ones on z900 got very limited adjustability (close to none) the forks are horrendous in spirited riding.
    And also want a smooth QS up/down, does the "Gearshift Assistant Pro" make it smoother?
    With gear and backpack I'm around 90-93kg atm.

    Will definitely invest in a better torx set & GS tool if I pull the trigger. I love to learn on working my own bikes and getting a workshop manual for XR seems easy.

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #5 on: July 17, 2022, 02:55:51 pm
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    I think 'gearshift assistant pro' is just BMW speak for the quickshifter, I think they all have them, there's no further enhancement option for the qs. It is one of the better one's though.

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #6 on: July 17, 2022, 03:50:51 pm
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    I thinkt he Pro alludes to the addition of the down sh#t blipper. My '14 S1000R just had GSA with no down blipper, my 16 S1000XR has GSA-Pro(with down-shift blipper).

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #7 on: July 17, 2022, 04:23:21 pm
    July 17, 2022, 04:23:21 pm
    *Originally Posted by SimonUK [+]
    I thinkt he Pro alludes to the addition of the down sh#t blipper. My '14 S1000R just had GSA with no down blipper, my 16 S1000XR has GSA-Pro(with down-shift blipper).

    That would make sense that pro = blipper. Gonna look into it further.

    Found a used -17 8000km on the ODO and claims it got dynamic & touring package.
    For 120 000 SEK (10.3k € / 9.7k £)
    Seems pretty good value it's also factory lowered + seat.

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #8 on: July 17, 2022, 04:54:50 pm
    July 17, 2022, 04:54:50 pm
    *Originally Posted by Max [+]
    That would make sense that pro = blipper. Gonna look into it further.

    Found a used -17 8000km on the ODO and claims it got dynamic & touring package.
    For 120 000 SEK (10.3k € / 9.7k £)
    Seems pretty good value it's also factory lowered + seat.

    So the packages are as following:

    Dynamic package:
    -Riding modes Pro (Dynamic + Dynamic Pro)
    -ABS Pro (cornering ABS) + DTC (lean sensitive TC)
    -Gear Shift Assist Pro (up and down quickshifter)
    -LED Turn indicators
    -Cruise Control

    Touring Package:
    -Centre stand
    -Dynamic ESA (Electronic Preload on the rear and electronic damping front and rear)
    -Heated Grips
    -BMW Navi preparation
    -Luggage Grid + Topcase rack

    The base Trims:

    S1000XR -

    2 riding modes, standard TC and ABS, no quickshifter.

    S1000XR Sport -

    Standard XR + Dynamic Package

    S1000XR Sport SE (most models out there) -

    Standard XR + Dynamic + Touring Package

    It was possible to custom order certain elements of the packages but if the bike has an LED indicator it's a good chance it'll have all the other bits, easy enough to check when you're there though.

    Same for the centrestand/navi prep for the touring package.

    If an XR has both packages it's fully loaded. All the other extras are just cosmetic such as the HP levers / rearsets /seats or carbon parts.

    Hope that clears it up fully.

    £9700 for a 17800km bike is not a bad deal, but not the best either, not sure about vehicle prices in sweden VS UK though, I know UK is one of the cheaper places for used BMs like this.

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    Re: Introduction to the s1000xr life (hopefully)
    Reply #9 on: July 17, 2022, 05:41:36 pm
    July 17, 2022, 05:41:36 pm
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    £9700 for a 17800km bike is not a bad deal, but not the best either, not sure about vehicle prices in sweden VS UK though, I know UK is one of the cheaper places for used BMs like this.

    Was sloppy written by me. It's a 2017 bike with 8000km so yea makes it a good deal.
    Just need to get rid of my Z quick haha

    And thanks for the clarifications on all the "mods" really appreciated. :028:

     



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