S1000XR sat nav general question

[Wildhaus]

Having chosen a S1000XR over a R1250RS following test rides with my usual pillion of both, I will order one in February for delivery when I return to live in the UK a few months later.  What an epic machine for our long distance touring with undiluted fun on the twisties.  I just have to hope that world events don't greatly extend build and delivery time over what's been quoted, but that's another matter.  For now, I have time to carefully spec what I want and make it less likely that I make decisions that I regret.

Starting with sat nav:

Do I understand it correctly that smartphone satnav will not stream to the TFT and as far as we know, BMW is unlikely to enable it retrospectively as a firmware update - BUT the BMW Connected app on a smartphone does send turn by turn instructions and the speed limit to the TFT display without additional cost, but has no audio feed for the smartphone to send to my Cardo intercom 

I've pieced this understanding together from multiple sources - including inference from what is not written - hence checking because I can be wrong. 

Many thanks!

[ketilouu]

Not sure if this helpful but I've got a 2020 s1000xr and:

- as far as I know it's correct to say that smartphone navigation doesn't integrate with the tft (eg if you use Google maps, you can't get the instructions to show on the tft)

- yes, the BMW connect app does integrate with the tft. It's a bit different to how you'd see navigation instructions on something like Google maps but it is pretty intuitive. Once you start your journey, the app on your phone will show you the map (like google maps) and the tft will give you turn by turn instructions only (ie you won't see ongoing instructions, or distance to destination for example)

- yes, you can configure your bike to show the speed limit. You don't need to have the bme connect app running for this. I assume it feeds off your phone though, not sure.

- I'm not aware of any BMW plans to integrate mobile navigation with the tft (ie nothing like Android Auto mode).

Edited to correct crap spelling!

[wessie]

Originally Posted by ketilouu

I'm jot aware of any bme plans to integrate mobile navigation with the tft (ie nothing like Android Auto mode).

it's already a thing on the bikes equipped with the 10" colour TV, R1250RT & I think the new K1600.

whether there will be an XR with the upgrade is another matter what with global electronics shortages and the demonisation of ICE powered bikes.

[Wildhaus]

Many thanks, ketilouu and wessie.  Helpful replies. 

One further question to help me decide which way to go; does the Connected app have spoken instructions to supplement the visual indications on the TFT?  I ask because today I run Google Maps (set to avoiding motorways and toll roads when on holiday) on my Android smartphone in a GIVI weatherproof holder above the headstock*, but in high workload environments only glance at the display once I have heard a spoken instruction that needs the map to supplement my interpretation of it.

*Sitting without airflow behind the screen and above the radiator, this combo does not like the searing heat we've had this summer and on a tour from the UK to the Czech Republic and back it crashed more times than I can remember from overheating.  I am not surprised as the phone was reaching insane temperatures.  One option is to spec the XR with sat nav preparation and buy a dedicated motorcycle sat nav, but a cheaper option is to keep the phone out of the sun but use it as just described - if the app supports spoken instructions.

Cheers!

[ketilouu]

Yes, BMW Connect does have spoken prompts - like Google maps does.

I've had a BMW satnav before but ended up selling it and going back to just using my phone. If you plan long routes with multiple waypoints then a proper bike satnav is better (in my experience) but for most things, a good phone cradle with power to charge it works just fine.

I have a BMW satnav cradle wired in already so I just bought a phone cradle that clicks into the BMW one and uses the wiring. See here:

[wessie]

if you decide to go the dedicated satnav route then the Garmin XT is much better than the very old design that is a BMW Nav 6.

The XT is on offer at Halfords in the UK currently and is even cheaper if you are eligible for the Blue Light Card for NHS, MOD or social care workers.

I have an older Garmin Zumo mounted on my handle bar.

[XRNewey]

Hi ketilouu...I'm interested in the cradle the guy is demonstrating in the clip, but can't see any links to where he got it from, can you oblige? I did subscribe to his Youtube channel, but that didn't seem to help 
TIA 

[ketilouu]

Sure! This is the one I got: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09BFH1YBQ. Not had it long but seems fine so far. It only comes with a super short iPhone charging cable so if you android you'd need to buy a short USB c cable.

[XRNewey]

Fab, many thanks. iphone cable is fine for me. At that price, definitely worth a try. Can't be as bad as my Nav 6!

[Wildhaus]

Many thanks again for yet more helpful replies.   

Unless going for the TE model of the XR that comes with sat nav preparation proves to be the most cost-effective approach, I will leave this out of the picture and see how I get on with the BMW Connected app first.  That's my first question done and dusted, so now to do my homework on luggage and screen before asking any in this vein.   

Cheers!