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    Dongle Plug
    on: September 06, 2022, 07:37:29 pm
    September 06, 2022, 07:37:29 pm
    Just read through the manual and want to be clear on a coupla things.

    With the coding plug installed you don't lose ABS?

    The front/rear brakes are linked mechanically via front brake so that won't change?

    It's going to be a tad louder?

    And it's going to wheelie easier?

    Appreciate always any reponses  :763:
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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #1 on: September 06, 2022, 08:44:41 pm
    September 06, 2022, 08:44:41 pm
    *Originally Posted by Ant [+]
    Just read through the manual and want to be clear on a coupla things.

    With the coding plug installed you don't lose ABS?

    The front/rear brakes are linked mechanically via front brake so that won't change?

    It's going to be a tad louder?

    And it's going to wheelie easier?

    Appreciate always any reponses  :763:

    Coding plug..?? Or do you mean the "Dynamic-Pro" dongle..?? Assuming Gen-1..?? You don't say which you have. Gen-2's don't have a coding plug.

    If you have a Gen-1, all the red "coding plug" does is enable Dynamic pro, it's essentially just a wire loop, (a paper clip will do the same job)...The coding plug "Dongle" should have been fitted at the first service. It has no effect on the exhaust or the linked brakes. Each level of mapping, Rain, Road, Dynamic & Dynamic Pro has different levels of ABS & T/C and anti-wheelie, each level also has slightly different throttle mapping. Rain mode is the only mode where power/torque is reduced and ABS and T/C are at maximin intrusion. Dynamic Pro will allow wheelies where as the others basically will not.

    I hope that helps explain things a bit.

    Smithy.

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #2 on: September 06, 2022, 08:51:03 pm
    September 06, 2022, 08:51:03 pm
    *Originally Posted by smithy [+]
    Coding plug..?? Or do you mean the "Dynamic-Pro" dongle..?? Assuming Gen-1..?? You don't say which you have. Gen-2's don't have a coding plug.

    If you have a Gen-1, all the red "coding plug" does is enable Dynamic pro, it's essentially just a wire loop, (a paper clip will do the same job)...The coding plug "Dongle" should have been fitted at the first service. It has no effect on the exhaust or the linked brakes. Each level of mapping, Rain, Road, Dynamic & Dynamic Pro has different levels of ABS & T/C and anti-wheelie, each level also has slightly different throttle mapping. Rain mode is the only mode where power/torque is reduced and ABS and T/C are at maximin intrusion. Dynamic Pro will allow wheelies where as the others basically will not.

    I hope that helps explain things a bit.

    Smithy.

    This, with the added caveat that the brakes are NOT mechanically linked. Their linkage levels are also dependent on Riding modes with Rain using the most rear brake, and D.Pro the least, with ABS off, the brakes are completely UNLINKED
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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #3 on: September 06, 2022, 08:56:12 pm
    September 06, 2022, 08:56:12 pm
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    This, with the added caveat that the brakes are NOT mechanically linked. Their linkage levels are also dependent on Riding modes with Rain using the most rear brake, and D.Pro the least, with ABS off, the brakes are completely UNLINKED

    I didn't realise the brakes were "unlinked" with the ABS turned off.... :027: I thought it just disabled the actual ABS function....There you go..a school day for me....Learn something new every day.. :028:

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #4 on: September 06, 2022, 08:57:52 pm
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    *Originally Posted by smithy [+]
    I didn't realise the brakes were "unlinked" with the ABS turned off.... :027: School day for me....Learn something new every day.. :028:

    Smithy.

    Funny enough the manual lies on this one as it says they are never unlinked even with ABS off, yet go give it a try put it on centre stand, hold your brakes on with the ignition on and it'll stop the rear wheel, then disable ABS and try again. And no it doesn't turn on at a certain speed once you set off.

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #5 on: September 06, 2022, 08:59:04 pm
    September 06, 2022, 08:59:04 pm
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    Funny enough the manual lies on this one as it says they are never unlinked even with ABS off, yet go give it a try put it on centre stand, hold your brakes on with the ignition on and it'll stop the rear wheel, then disable ABS and try again. And no it doesn't turn on at a certain speed once you set off.

    Fair call..!

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #6 on: September 06, 2022, 09:17:49 pm
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    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    This, with the added caveat that the brakes are NOT mechanically linked. Their linkage levels are also dependent on Riding modes with Rain using the most rear brake, and D.Pro the least, with ABS off, the brakes are completely UNLINKED

    Thanks Antares :763:

    Can you keep ABS on using the dongle so the brakes stay linked?



    *Originally Posted by smithy [+]
    Coding plug..?? Or do you mean the "Dynamic-Pro" dongle..?? Assuming Gen-1..?? You don't say which you have. Gen-2's don't have a coding plug.

    If you have a Gen-1, all the red "coding plug" does is enable Dynamic pro, it's essentially just a wire loop, (a paper clip will do the same job)...The coding plug "Dongle" should have been fitted at the first service. It has no effect on the exhaust or the linked brakes. Each level of mapping, Rain, Road, Dynamic & Dynamic Pro has different levels of ABS & T/C and anti-wheelie, each level also has slightly different throttle mapping. Rain mode is the only mode where power/torque is reduced and ABS and T/C are at maximin intrusion. Dynamic Pro will allow wheelies where as the others basically will not.

    I hope that helps explain things a bit.

    Smithy.

    Yes, dongle and 2016.

    Maybe a better question would have been is there a tangible benefit to installing the dongle? Not sure I want to lose the linked brakes.

    Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help :430:

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #7 on: September 06, 2022, 09:36:09 pm
    September 06, 2022, 09:36:09 pm
    *Originally Posted by Ant [+]
    Thanks Antares :763:

    Can you keep ABS on using the dongle so the brakes stay linked?



    Yes, dongle and 2016.

    Maybe a better question would have been is there a tangible benefit to installing the dongle? Not sure I want to lose the linked brakes.

    Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help :430:

    You're confusing what it does, all it does is just unlock Dynamic Pro, an extra riding mode, you need to select this riding mode to get less assists, no wheelie control and less ABS intrusion, all the other riding modes, including their linked brake functions remain normal. Linked brakes are only ever disabled with ABS manually switched OFF. Dynamic Pro still has ABS and Linked brakes just lesser intrusion

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #8 on: September 06, 2022, 09:41:03 pm
    September 06, 2022, 09:41:03 pm
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    You're confusing what it does, all it does is just unlock Dynamic Pro, an extra riding mode, you need to select this riding mode to get less assists, no wheelie control and less ABS intrusion, all the other riding modes, including their linked brake functions remain normal. Linked brakes are only ever disabled with ABS manually switched OFF. Dynamic Pro still has ABS and Linked brakes just lesser intrusion

    Awesome! Yes I over thunk it but now it's clear. :762: :763:

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    Re: Coding Plug
    Reply #9 on: September 07, 2022, 11:49:24 am
    September 07, 2022, 11:49:24 am
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    Funny enough the manual lies on this one as it says they are never unlinked even with ABS off, yet go give it a try put it on centre stand, hold your brakes on with the ignition on and it'll stop the rear wheel, then disable ABS and try again. And no it doesn't turn on at a certain speed once you set off.

    This reminds me of an old discussion I had about my K13S which was a rare one without ABS or TC. I was convinced it had linked brakes, but it turned out to not have. The Link function was done through the ABS unit, which I didn't have.