Was thinking of changing my XR for a new bike but has BMW's design gone to sleep

[PaulS1000XR]

Very little enhancements available for the 2023 XR (or GS) to persuade me to upgrade my 2021 XR - have BMW's designers gone to sleep? Ducati and others have much more tech but BMW just offers the same stuff. Why should I buy a new XR or GS?? However BMW has increased the prices for the XR (and GS) significantly over the last 2 years whilst offering nothing new. Dont think I will bother to change my bike if there is nothing better on offer, unless I buy a Ducati instead

[Antares]

Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR

Very little enhancements available for the 2023 XR (or GS) to persuade me to upgrade my 2021 XR - have BMW's designers gone to sleep? Ducati and others have much more tech but BMW just offers the same stuff. Why should I buy a new XR or GS?? However BMW has increased the prices for the XR (and GS) significantly over the last 2 years whilst offering nothing new. Dont think I will bother to change my bike if there is nothing better on offer, unless I buy a Ducati instead

Gen 3 XR probably next year, I'm looking forward to the M1000XR if it's a thing, imo the Gen 2 is not worth upgrading for, but it's only been around 2 and a bit years at this point, can't expect BMW to spit out a new generation every other year.

Whilst yea the XR is a bit behind, don't forget it's also a fraction of the cost of the equivalent Multistrada and yet it does everything the Multi V4 does apart from radar cruise control and a few gimmicks. That's it.

[PaulS1000XR]

Originally Posted by Antares

Gen 3 XR probably next year, I'm looking forward to the M1000XR if it's a thing, imo the Gen 2 is not worth upgrading for, but it's only been around 2 and a bit years at this point, can't expect BMW to spit out a new generation every other year.

Whilst yea the XR is a bit behind, don't forget it's also a fraction of the cost of the equivalent Multistrada and yet it does everything the Multi V4 does apart from radar cruise control and a few gimmicks. That's it.
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Well over £17k for a basic XR TE now so catching Ducati up. Also all the prices for options have been increased significantly. Why would you buy a new bike when its exactly the same and a lot more expensive? GS is even worse.

[Antares]

Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR

Originally Posted by Antares

Gen 3 XR probably next year, I'm looking forward to the M1000XR if it's a thing, imo the Gen 2 is not worth upgrading for, but it's only been around 2 and a bit years at this point, can't expect BMW to spit out a new generation every other year.

Whilst yea the XR is a bit behind, don't forget it's also a fraction of the cost of the equivalent Multistrada and yet it does everything the Multi V4 does apart from radar cruise control and a few gimmicks. That's it.

Well over £17k for a basic XR TE now so catching Ducati up. Also all the prices for options have been increased significantly. Why would you buy a new bike when its exactly the same and a lot more expensive? GS is even worse.

As I said, I wouldn't, not a Gen 2. That said it's nowhere near a Duc, which the equivalent spec is 19.5k, and especially not a pikes peak (which the XR still out handles by all accounts when it comes to road riding). I'd hang on and wait for the R1300GS and Gen 3 XR hopefully coming next year if you're interested in a new bike.

[smithy]

Originally Posted by PaulS1000XR

Very little enhancements available for the 2023 XR (or GS) to persuade me to upgrade my 2021 XR - have BMW's designers gone to sleep? Ducati and others have much more tech but BMW just offers the same stuff. Why should I buy a new XR or GS?? However BMW has increased the prices for the XR (and GS) significantly over the last 2 years whilst offering nothing new. Dont think I will bother to change my bike if there is nothing better on offer, unless I buy a Ducati instead

The Gen-1 was around for 5 years, 15 thru 19 before the Gen-2 was released for the 2020 model year.... and the Gen-1 was essentially unchanged other than minor updates, a change from Euro-3 to Euro-4 and cosmetics. The Gen-2 has only been around for less than 3 years.

Smithy.

[Winger]

It’s about time we got an XR1200, even no after all these years my K1200r Sport in fairness with a fair amount of mods is more than good enough to outrun my XR

[Momo1970]

Wondering what do you have in mind in terms of updates ? Besides adaptive cruise control (who needs that) the XR has all the bells and whistles. Cam shaft engine? Not sure it needed, I just completed. 2 days at the track, and my Gen 2 XR acceleration was as strong if not stronger than the RR.
Sure I would love lighter everything, but that usually after market/ higher costs components.

[garyculb]

Here you Go...

https://www.mcnews.com.au/motorcycle-news/bmw-news/

https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/bike-news/bmw-motorrad-india-to-launch-new-bike-on-september-29th-new-s1000r--article-94388607

I suspect by Thanksgiving you will have some answers...

Best, Doc

[Mareng1]

Originally Posted by Winger

It’s about time we got an XR1200, even no after all these years my K1200r Sport in fairness with a fair amount of mods is more than good enough to outrun my XR

I can't see it happening - it's only the twins and triples which are going up to the 1200/1300cc capacity.

Shift-cam MAY come in, but might be for mid-range boost.

[Winger]

In fairness all the mods motor wise that I’ve either done or had done, for me it’s all been about bottom end not top end, the Akra headers/MIVV end can/Power Commander now mean I can have close to zero revs in a high gear and all I have to do is open the throttle and it’ll pull what ever gear as clean as a whistle, instead of chasing the right gear and as I ride the majority of the time two up works very well.