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  • Offline Arthurgee   gb

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    new member needing to lower seat further
    on: October 23, 2022, 05:56:42 pm
    October 23, 2022, 05:56:42 pm
    Just bought the bike at the weekend, and hopefully pick it up at weekend. Couldn't get a lower framed model, so went with standard frame, with lowered seat. However i want to try to lower it a little further if possible. I see on fleabay you can buy rubber grommets to lower it further, however the images look like these are located on the bike, but i'm sure on the gen2 (21 plate) the rubber grommets are on the saddle and not the bike. Any advice please folks?

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #1 on: October 23, 2022, 08:50:48 pm
    October 23, 2022, 08:50:48 pm
    *Originally Posted by Arthurgee [+]
    Just bought the bike at the weekend, and hopefully pick it up at weekend. Couldn't get a lower framed model, so went with standard frame, with lowered seat. However i want to try to lower it a little further if possible. I see on fleabay you can buy rubber grommets to lower it further, however the images look like these are located on the bike, but i'm sure on the gen2 (21 plate) the rubber grommets are on the saddle and not the bike. Any advice please folks?

    "ALL" frames are the same, the lowered version just has different suspension. The grommets are on the saddle on the Gen-2..on the Gen-1 they live on the bike.

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #2 on: October 23, 2022, 08:55:25 pm
    October 23, 2022, 08:55:25 pm
    I have played with the grommets on both gen 1 and gen 2 bikes (on gen 2 actually trying to raise the front a bit) and the one drawback to them, IMHO, is that they exacerbate the sliding into the tank issue since they drop the front of the seat and make that angle greater than it already is.  Might not be a bad tradeoff if you really need the small drop they provide.
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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #3 on: October 23, 2022, 09:27:51 pm
    October 23, 2022, 09:27:51 pm
    Appreciate both your feedback.  I guess fr a few quid its worth trying the smaller grommets, and if sliding into the tank, i can revert back to norm.  After riding the H2 since 2018, with the awesome power and braking capacity, i dont think anymore sliding into the tank is going to do too much more damage...  :087:
    Cheers for the update on all frames being the same, i wasn't aware it was the suspension that was different and not the frames.

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #4 on: October 24, 2022, 03:58:14 am
    October 24, 2022, 03:58:14 am
    *Originally Posted by Arthurgee [+]
    Appreciate both your feedback.  I guess fr a few quid its worth trying the smaller grommets.

    Cheers for the update on all frames being the same, i wasn't aware it was the suspension that was different and not the frames.

    The "grommets" aren't smaller, they're just offset with the hole towards one side rather than in the middle. I have a set on my Gen-1...gives about 10mm drop at the front of the seat....but does make it worse in the "sliding into tank" department.

    Yeah, both Gen-1 &  Gen-2 have different suspension for the "factory lowered" machines. At least with the Gen-1 you can fit lowering links to the rear and drop the front end a bit through the triples. The Gen-2 doesn't have links so it's difficult to lower it at the rear without major surgery and/or shorter rear spring etc...

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #5 on: October 24, 2022, 11:16:33 am
    October 24, 2022, 11:16:33 am
    I posted this on another forum...

    There are just a few options when lowering the Gen 2 XR.

    The first is from HyperPro. You replace the rear shock spring (https://www.pureperformancecycles.com/hyperpro-lowering-spring-kit-bmw-s-1000-xr-2020-2022.html ) & the rear of the bike is lowered 20mm. The front forks can be loosened from the triple tree clamp and the front end is lowered 15mm (0.59 inches). This is the least expensive mechanical option.

    The second comes from TracTive (S1000XR ('20-On): Ted Porter's BeemerShop ). The total drop is 30mm (1.18 inches). Exchange/modification of the bikes rear shock is required. The TracTive rear shock exchange/mod is $1,595. Then, the front fork cartridges are replaced ($2,195). This can be the most accurate method to adjust the supension of your Gen 2 XR when lowering the bike.

    *Originally Posted by Shorty53, post: 2430534, member: 123921
    Nothing else, but if you lower the bike the centerstand won't work anymore, so be aware of that. Also, when it's on the diagnostic computer the suspension throws a code after the lowering is done, but you can ignore it.

    If you lower the Gen 2 XR by 30 mm there is a shorter center stand that can be purchased from the mother ship (46 52 8404580).

    The easiest method to determine if this lowering would be of assistance is to use two pieces of wood that are the same thickness of the lowering height you are considering. Place them on either side of the XR, get on the bike, carefully place your feet on the wood & see if this would make a significant difference.

    The third option is to sell your Regular Height Gen XR & purchase the OEM lowered model.

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #6 on: October 24, 2022, 12:53:13 pm
    October 24, 2022, 12:53:13 pm
    Do places sell platformed bike boots yet....  :745: might be my only way forward without major surgery.

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #7 on: October 24, 2022, 01:52:14 pm
    October 24, 2022, 01:52:14 pm
    *Originally Posted by Arthurgee [+]
    Do places sell platformed bike boots yet....  :745: might be my only way forward without major surgery.
    I know Daytona makes a couple models with a raised heel, but not sure how much it is raised vs. a normal boot.
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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #8 on: October 24, 2022, 06:27:46 pm
    October 24, 2022, 06:27:46 pm
    Here come all those lame elevated shoe/boots comments. If you get a Gen 2 that is Low you loose some of the suspension upgrades that are present on the regular height model Gen 2 XR. It would be like riding around on MIN- ALL THE TIME.

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    Re: new member needing to lower seat further
    Reply #9 on: October 28, 2022, 07:26:44 pm
    October 28, 2022, 07:26:44 pm
    *Originally Posted by Arthurgee [+]
    Just bought the bike at the weekend, and hopefully pick it up at weekend. Couldn't get a lower framed model, so went with standard frame, with lowered seat. However i want to try to lower it a little further if possible. I see on fleabay you can buy rubber grommets to lower it further, however the images look like these are located on the bike, but i'm sure on the gen2 (21 plate) the rubber grommets are on the saddle and not the bike. Any advice please folks?

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