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    Weak sauce turn signal switch
    on: January 29, 2023, 05:15:39 am
    January 29, 2023, 05:15:39 am
    Anyone else here find the turn signal switch thoroughly weak sauce? It works, but the mechanism doesn't click to either side or back to the middle with any sign of certainty. It just sort of smooshes either way and comes back to middle. All my other bikes, all of them, had much more positive and clear switches, with distinct notching that indicated positioning. Have to wonder if I have a lame version of an otherwise normal switch, or if this is typical of BMW or the XR?

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #1 on: January 29, 2023, 12:13:50 pm
    January 29, 2023, 12:13:50 pm
    switch seems pretty standard for BMW

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #2 on: January 29, 2023, 02:26:01 pm
    January 29, 2023, 02:26:01 pm
    I agree that the XR indicator switch is standard for BMW but I also agree that it is not as positive to operate as the same indicator on many other bikes.

    I have often wondered if there may be a small modification or aftermarket upgrade for this OEM turn indicator switch.

    OK - I agree - this is a really small niggle for such an overall fantastic motorbike  :046: but maybe that is what makes the mushy feel of this switch stand out for some  :084:
    Last Edit: January 29, 2023, 02:28:13 pm by Warree

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #3 on: January 29, 2023, 02:29:51 pm
    January 29, 2023, 02:29:51 pm
    I didn't like it at all when I first got the bike,and I struggled trying to figure out if the signals were actually on of off .
    It certainly does not operate like any of the other bikes I've owned, but I have gotten used to it.
    but yeah,it's  kind of "mushy" for sure

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #4 on: January 29, 2023, 02:32:23 pm
    January 29, 2023, 02:32:23 pm
    The left switchgear is attrocious for me, the cruise control stopped working altogether, probably will have to take it apart again and clean the contacts, the buttons are extremely mushy. My menu button are sticking and wont release after being depressed without a nudge, the indicator is floppier than a deflated balloon...

    I was considering replacing it with one from another BMW as they are all exactly the same just have different logos printed on the buttons, apart from that it's just a matter of having all the buttons present, such as Cruise control and suspension control. But... Used the CHEAPEST I could find on ebay from a bloody R1200RT that had all the buttons i needed was 150 quid!!!! One off of a Gen 2 XR is like 300 quid... Absolutely ridiculous.

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #5 on: January 29, 2023, 03:11:29 pm
    January 29, 2023, 03:11:29 pm
    *Originally Posted by Antares [+]
    The left switchgear is attrocious for me, the cruise control stopped working altogether, probably will have to take it apart again and clean the contacts, the buttons are extremely mushy. My menu button are sticking and wont release after being depressed without a nudge, the indicator is floppier than a deflated balloon...

    I was considering replacing it with one from another BMW as they are all exactly the same just have different logos printed on the buttons, apart from that it's just a matter of having all the buttons present, such as Cruise control and suspension control. But... Used the CHEAPEST I could find on ebay from a bloody R1200RT that had all the buttons i needed was 150 quid!!!! One off of a Gen 2 XR is like 300 quid... Absolutely ridiculous.

    your 2015 bike is from an era when BMW had a bad batch of LH switchgear. The same unit is fitted to my 2016 R1200RS and I asked for a new one just before the 2 year warranty expired. It all worked but the info button was a bit notchy. 2018 replacement has been fine.
    Last Edit: January 29, 2023, 03:12:01 pm by wessie

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #6 on: January 29, 2023, 03:13:27 pm
    January 29, 2023, 03:13:27 pm
    *Originally Posted by wessie [+]
    your 2015 bike is from an era when BMW had a bad batch of LH switchgear. The same unit is fitted to my 2016 R1200RS and I asked for a new one just before the 2 year warranty expired. It all worked but the info button was a bit notchy. 2018 replacement has been fine.

    Hope you're right because it's atrocious frankly. I think I'm well outside of any BMW help though.

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #7 on: January 29, 2023, 03:48:06 pm
    January 29, 2023, 03:48:06 pm
    I quite liked the flappy paddle things I had on my R1150GS - they were much easier to use when you had bar muffs fitted in winter. A switch on each bar for the on button for that side, and a single cancel button on the right. Only problem was giving someone a severe blast of left indicator instead of the horn.



    It took quite a while to relearn the muscle memory for the 3 way switch when I changed to a Super Tenere. 

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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #8 on: January 29, 2023, 04:52:36 pm
    January 29, 2023, 04:52:36 pm
    I really appreciate everyone chiming in with your experiences, as this is my first BMW. I'm reassured that what I have is "normal". I haven't yet found any of my other switch gear to be a problem. Cruise works fine, mode and all that. I'll just have to deal with smooshy turn signals. I agree with @Warree that it sticks out because everything else is so fantastic.
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    Re: Weak sauce turn signal switch
    Reply #9 on: January 29, 2023, 05:59:52 pm
    January 29, 2023, 05:59:52 pm
    Your first BMW…… :008: blimey now that is what is called a learning curve…bought my first in 98 I’d been riding along time even then all Japanese,currently run 3 Beemers among others….an XR/K1200r Sport/R1100s, the things you learn!!!! How they lost the war for a start  :008: the Germans have a way of working, that’s where you come in and that’s your part of the process.

    If you have had the bike over a year and you still don’t like it….then Huston there’s a problem….what effect did 3 Beemers have on me?? I ended up with a KTM as well  :156:

    As for the motor!!! Ditch the exhaust system for Akra headers the same with the lamba sensor,fit a PC and get it dynoed and it’s great and the biggest shock of all isn’t the extra top end HP it’s bottom end grunt it’s a wonder :005: