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    Rear axle torque
    on: June 21, 2023, 12:24:42 am
    June 21, 2023, 12:24:42 am
    Adjusted the "low maintenance" chain on my Gen 2, looked in the book for torque values
    Book states 100 Nm but I noticed the axle blocks stamped 125, I'm kind of associating this 125 stamp
    a torque value since my 2022 S1000R calls for 125 Nm..... So do I go book or writing on the wall?
    BTW- the tic marks on these swingarms don't seem to be 100% accurate (better than the japs)
    but thought the Germans were do or die with accuracy ??
    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 12:25:25 am by Leo167

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #1 on: June 21, 2023, 03:50:03 am
    June 21, 2023, 03:50:03 am
    *Originally Posted by Leo167 [+]
    Adjusted the "low maintenance" chain on my Gen 2, looked in the book for torque values
    Book states 100 Nm but I noticed the axle blocks stamped 125, I'm kind of associating this 125 stamp
    a torque value since my 2022 S1000R calls for 125 Nm..... So do I go book or writing on the wall?
    BTW- the tic marks on these swingarms don't seem to be 100% accurate (better than the japs)
    but thought the Germans were do or die with accuracy ??

    125nm is the correct torque for the Gen-2. Gen-1 is 100nm.

    The pic below is straight out of the Gen-2 owners manual.

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    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 03:51:42 am by smithy
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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #2 on: June 21, 2023, 08:56:42 am
    June 21, 2023, 08:56:42 am
    *Originally Posted by Leo167 [+]
    Adjusted the "low maintenance" chain on my Gen 2, looked in the book for torque values
    Book states 100 Nm but I noticed the axle blocks stamped 125, I'm kind of associating this 125 stamp
    a torque value since my 2022 S1000R calls for 125 Nm..... So do I go book or writing on the wall?
    BTW- the tic marks on these swingarms don't seem to be 100% accurate (better than the japs)
    but thought the Germans were do or die with accuracy ??


    Mine's a Gen1, this is the chain alignment with the marks on the swingarm..



    This is the chain aligned with the tool, marks were abiout a quarter out.



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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #3 on: June 21, 2023, 09:01:29 am
    June 21, 2023, 09:01:29 am
    *Originally Posted by Leo167 [+]
    Adjusted the "low maintenance" chain on my Gen 2, looked in the book for torque values
    Book states 100 Nm but I noticed the axle blocks stamped 125, I'm kind of associating this 125 stamp
    a torque value since my 2022 S1000R calls for 125 Nm..... So do I go book or writing on the wall?
    BTW- the tic marks on these swingarms don't seem to be 100% accurate (better than the japs)
    but thought the Germans were do or die with accuracy ??

    For some reason there are 2 rear axle torque specs for Gen 2.
    2020 production year (like mine) are 100 Nm in the user manual.
    2021+ models are 125 Nm
    I dont’t know if there are any axle differences between 2020 and 2020+ models, but for some reason BMW changed the rear axle torque values.
    I do mine at 100 Nm. There aren’t any numbers stamped on my axle bolts

    Re the wheel/chain alignment, I don’t use the axle marks as a reference. I use the vernier caliper and measure how much the adjusting bolts are unscrewed from the axle and then make sure both sides are exactly the same
    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 09:08:05 am by esso_sa

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #4 on: June 21, 2023, 12:00:53 pm
    June 21, 2023, 12:00:53 pm
    *Originally Posted by smithy [+]
    125nm is the correct torque for the Gen-2. Gen-1 is 100nm.

    The pic below is straight out of the Gen-2 owners manual.

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    Hmm? Swear my E version of the manual stated 100 going to check the physical book when I get home…. Went with 125 anyway

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #5 on: June 21, 2023, 12:04:03 pm
    June 21, 2023, 12:04:03 pm
    *Originally Posted by af1-windy [+]

    Mine's a Gen1, this is the chain alignment with the marks on the swingarm..



    This is the chain aligned with the tool, marks were abiout a quarter out.



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    I use the same exact tool, and my initial findings  were exactly as yours and readjusted accordingly

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #6 on: June 21, 2023, 12:08:24 pm
    June 21, 2023, 12:08:24 pm
    *Originally Posted by esso_sa [+]
    For some reason there are 2 rear axle torque specs for Gen 2.
    2020 production year (like mine) are 100 Nm in the user manual.
    2021+ models are 125 Nm
    I dont’t know if there are any axle differences between 2020 and 2020+ models, but for some reason BMW changed the rear axle torque values.
    I do mine at 100 Nm. There aren’t any numbers stamped on my axle bolts

    Re the wheel/chain alignment, I don’t use the axle marks as a reference. I use the vernier caliper and measure how much the adjusting bolts are unscrewed from the axle and then make sure both sides are exactly the same

    maybe I downloaded the wrong Gen 2 manual?
    Anyway will confirm when I get home… maybe I need new glasses as well??
    The caliper thing… just to much work for me, the motion pro stick has worked for me for many years

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #7 on: June 21, 2023, 02:08:02 pm
    June 21, 2023, 02:08:02 pm
    Both my owner's manual and service manual for gen 2 say 125 nm.

    EDIT - mine is a 2021 (so post 2020 manuals)
    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 02:59:29 pm by capt cf
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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #8 on: June 21, 2023, 02:57:13 pm
    June 21, 2023, 02:57:13 pm
    *Originally Posted by Leo167 [+]
    maybe I downloaded the wrong Gen 2 manual?
    Anyway will confirm when I get home… maybe I need new glasses as well??
    The caliper thing… just to much work for me, the motion pro stick has worked for me for many years

    There are 2 user manuals - pre and post 2020.
    The one pre 2020 says 100 Nm, while the later one says 125 Nm
    You can see which version of owners manual you’ve got with the bike (or downloaded). It is stamped on the last page.
    My bike is manufactured in May 2020, and the owners manual I got with it is:
    Order No.: 01 40 5 A01 801
    07.2019, 1st edition, 01

    This manual says 100 Nm
    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 02:57:48 pm by esso_sa

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    Re: Rear axle torque
    Reply #9 on: June 21, 2023, 11:34:18 pm
    June 21, 2023, 11:34:18 pm
    *Originally Posted by esso_sa [+]
    There are 2 user manuals - pre and post 2020.
    The one pre 2020 says 100 Nm, while the later one says 125 Nm
    You can see which version of owners manual you’ve got with the bike (or downloaded). It is stamped on the last page.
    My bike is manufactured in May 2020, and the owners manual I got with it is:
    Order No.: 01 40 5 A01 801
    07.2019, 1st edition, 01

    This manual says 100 Nm

    My bike is a 2022- So, the E manual I grabbed from the web is exactly what you described and not the correct manual for a 22



    And does state 100Nm




    Thank you for the education, I'm glad to say that I have not lost my mind and seeing imaginary torque values...
    Last Edit: June 21, 2023, 11:36:08 pm by Leo167

     



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