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Offline Mute

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Nearly Binned It!
« on: September 05, 2016, 05:55:29 AM »
Wet road but not raining, 30mph, very very slight curve, about to slow for some traffic lights.

Touched the front brake and the front wheel began to slide out instantly and violently. Likely a diesel spill.

The electronics work! I did immediately let off the brake but before I'd managed, it was all recovered already. Everything happened in the blink of an eye.

Offline Troppo

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 07:07:24 AM »
Glad it ended well.  The XR's electronic magic is particularly useful for UK roads...

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 07:31:29 AM »
Glad you saved it. I had a high speed SMIDSY last weekend, and managed to save it, just breaking the handguard on the side of his car/ mirror. Could have been much worse.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 09:47:37 AM »
And this posses a question...

Initial braking -  front or rear first ?

I live on my back brake, first thing after engine retard for slowing, front encourages a wash out, opinions ?
Therapy...

You'll never see a motorbike parked outside a psychiatrists.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2016, 09:51:25 AM »
I use the back brake for tight U turns and going into my garage.

I only use the front the rest of the time, and certainly in the twisties....

I would only use both if I really had to stop hard - to avoid an obstacle/car/cow.

Offline Mute

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 09:57:36 AM »
I'm 99% front brake, because of the linked brakes on this bike I think I use the rear even less again.

After that little incident though, in the wet I'll be 50/50 front vs rear, and I'll start with the rear.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2016, 03:34:18 PM »
On bikes with unlinked brakes I use 70/30 but since these are linked I just use the front. 

I am glad to hear you are OK and that the electronics work great.  I would still keep braking as normal or maybe brake a little more casually, I wouldn't let one very odd situation change everything.  I only say this because with the electronics you might not notice anything on the rear so the entire point of testing with the rear would go out the window.  It is your life though so you do what makes you feel comfortable.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2016, 07:59:20 AM »
Being pedantic, braking when cornering?? :156: Glad you had a good result.
Ok, sometimes it is necessary, but it means we've screwed up assessing the bend.
Bike is far more stable using just the rear brake at low speed and coming to a standstill. (Eliminating front suspension compression and oscillation)
Whilst both brakes are recommended from speed, applying both together, the harder the front is applied the less effective the rear becomes (demonstrated in a full 'stoppy').
Mutes' correct 50-50 is the best bet in the wet or crap road surface.
These are 'in the book' rules, but generally work.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2016, 07:12:37 PM »
*Originally Posted by Gatsoburner [+]
And this posses a question...

Initial braking -  front or rear first ?

I live on my back brake, first thing after engine retard for slowing, front encourages a wash out, opinions ?

Whatever works for you I guess, I use the back brake on slowing moneuvering, especially on a poor surface, gravel drive etc...

Thats it.

Never touch it on any of my bikes apart from that, linked brakes or not.

Have you looked at the back brakes on a motorbike? Even the best ones are made of cheese.

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Re: Nearly Binned It!
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2016, 08:32:13 PM »
One thing I don't like about the back brake is that ABS comes in too soon and for no reason. Happened on my last bike, a street triple r too.

 


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