Hi gatsoburner, so true about the forum , and already been helpful .ive also put the bar ends on by cymarc torqued them up to spec but are you saying a bit tighter may help? I've heard silicone injected into bars can work to? TBH the vibey mirrors bug me more! Do most my riding around Northumberland and Scottish Borders for now, next year the NC500 is on list they reckon it's a must ride?